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11/20/19 at 08:06:06
 
Sondland seems to be making it very clear, that Trump was only interested in a public announcement of investigation rather than any actual investigation.
It is then very clear that Trump was after dirt on Biden, not any routing of corruption...

He's also making it clear that there was a Quid pro quo...
...for both a WH meeting and the military aid.

Repub's only option is to say he's lying.
A billionaire Trump doner, appointed by Trump.
He's a "Never Trumper"...
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Reply #1 - 11/20/19 at 09:04:03
 
Direct quote from this morning:
Sondland: "I've never heard from President Trump that the aid was conditioned on the investigations."
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Reply #2 - 11/20/19 at 09:16:50
 
Fron Sondland, he asked Trump a direct question.
"What do you want from Ukraine?"
He said Trump had a very short, abrupt answer.
Trump's response direct from Sondland: "I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. Tell Zelinsky to do the right thing"
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Reply #3 - 11/20/19 at 09:26:00
 
I am listening to this now and Sondand is repeatedly saying I think I perceive this is what I understood the message to be etc. etc.

When asked directly was he told a quid pro quo was in place, his answer is no.
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Reply #4 - 11/20/19 at 09:34:27
 
Exact quote from Sundland five seconds ago, “that was the problem Mr. Goldman, no one told me the aid was tied directly to anything, I was presuming it was
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Reply #5 - 11/20/19 at 09:42:18
 
Ambassador Taylor from a text message to Sondland: “as I said on the phone I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign”
Sondland’s response: “Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intention. The president has been crystal clear no quid pro quos of any kind. The president is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zalensky promised during his campaign.”
I have not watched Taylor’s testimony so I don’t know where he got the idea that security assistance was being with held for help with a political campaign. My belief is he inferred that after the fact.
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Reply #6 - 11/20/19 at 10:01:12
 
I wonder if this is how those around Jeffrey Epstein justified their enabling his crimes?  "I didn't know he was raping children- we just held the door open and turned the key.  Those screams could have been anything."
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Reply #7 - 11/20/19 at 10:04:06
 
Sondland seems like a decent and honest guy but the Republican counsel is making excellent points about the gaps in his testimony. And Sunland has no choice but to agree. It’s a friendly exchange.
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Reply #8 - 11/20/19 at 10:05:02
 
Context is key.

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Reply #9 - 11/20/19 at 10:14:31
 
I wasn't talking about Sondland, Mark.
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Reply #10 - 11/20/19 at 10:14:45
 
Context confirms he is not.

As the Republican council is pointing  out to Sundland who has agreed with it, one of trumps primary believes is foreign aid to corrupt nations is intolerable. Sondland testified that as an ambassador he was fully aware of this. Ukraine is a corrupt nation and Hunter Biden was involved with one of the more well known corrupt companies already under investigation. If you remember, the ambassador who was fired, in her Senate testimony preparation was asked how she would respond if a reporter or senator asked her about Hunter Biden’s involvement in the corrupt company.

That’s context.
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Reply #11 - 11/20/19 at 10:19:20
 
"He said she tripped and fell down the stairs- case closed."

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Reply #12 - 11/20/19 at 10:32:40
 
WebsterMark wrote on 11/20/19 at 10:14:45:
Context confirms he is not.

As the Republican council is pointing  out to Sundland who has agreed with it, one of trumps primary believes is foreign aid to corrupt nations is intolerable. Sondland testified that as an ambassador he was fully aware of this. Ukraine is a corrupt nation and Hunter Biden was involved with one of the more well known corrupt companies already under investigation. If you remember, the ambassador who was fired, in her Senate testimony preparation was asked how she would respond if a reporter or senator asked her about Hunter Biden’s involvement in the corrupt company.

That’s context.



Go ahead and try and mix the word salad to your liking.

At the end of the day, all evidence, testimony, witnesses point to trump withholding aid in order to smear the Bidens.

Case closed.

Articles of impeachment will be drawn up.

If pompeo leaves trump's side - game over.
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Reply #13 - 11/20/19 at 11:11:53
 
At the end of the day, all evidence, testimony, witnesses point to trump withholding aid in order to smear the Bidens.

No, it does not. All evidence? All testimony? I’ve given you exact quotes from witnesses today that clearly call that into question.

Absolutely no one has testified Trump looked them in the eye, sent them a message etc and said “withhold the aid until I have dirt on Joe Biden.”
In fact, I’ve given you exact quotes where Trump said the exact opposite of that. How can you say all evidence, all witnesses point to a fact that none of the witnesses have testified to directly?
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Reply #14 - 11/20/19 at 11:13:37
 
"I mean, he said 'I wish she was dead'- but it wasn't an order -that's just the way he talks."

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