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Reply #15 - 10/28/19 at 15:39:54
 
Eegore wrote on 10/28/19 at 11:51:54:
 How are they punished? 

At first, they are not.
The person’s who got the most questions correct, most probably get’s a A,
If one of the popular ‘curve’ grading was used, would probably get a A plus.
Making him/her the highest scoring person on that test.
So, in a way, that person is not punished for their work/study.
That time.
And that describes the two extremes of the spectrum.
The highest gets a A, the lowest get’s a F.

What about those lower grading students, who would have failed,
they now get getting passing grades, for doing NO work.

The working hard person, not just the Top person,
sees, ‘no work’, rewarded, so why ‘work’, why not party ?
So yea, it would not, directly, ‘punish’, the highest grade person.

It punishes the hardest working/smartest,
for the benefit of the lazy/ignorant.

Just like, ’Teaching The Test’, benefits the teacher, school, state.

Or the most wonderful, Pass/Fail, system.

Socialism, where the ‘almost good enough’, will receive rewards.
(Well, until the other person, stops working for them)


Now, to the original question:
... when asked,"Would you would be willing to give some of your higher than B grades, to bolster up someones D grades.?"
...They say they want to keep their grade, because They worked hard to get them...

Is it possible that any UL FDS GBS could answer that,
without Spinning, Deflecting, and name calling ?

Or is it just, 'good enough', to Spin, Deflect, and name call ?





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Reply #16 - 10/28/19 at 15:51:09
 

"The person’s who got the most questions correct, most probably get’s a A,"

 They do, not probably.  Do you know of college courses where the highest score is not considered as the highest and gets a B?

 
"The working hard person, not just the Top person,
sees, ‘no work’, rewarded, so why ‘work’, why not party ?"


 With that type of education  ethics why shouldn't they be held responsible for screwing off their grades for partying?  You don't like how this class is graded so you get an excuse to party instead of study?
 


"Now, to the original question:
... when asked,"Would you would be willing to give some of your higher than B grades, to bolster up someones D grades.?"
...They say they want to keep their grade, because They worked hard to get them..."


 Do you have any references?
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Reply #17 - 10/28/19 at 16:10:24
 
Eegore wrote on 10/28/19 at 15:51:09:
 Do you have any references?   

As tt often says:
"don't be so lazy, and look it up yourself"
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Reply #18 - 10/28/19 at 16:14:31
 

 So you don't have references.
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Reply #19 - 10/28/19 at 16:29:24
 
Eegore wrote on 10/28/19 at 16:14:31:
 So you don't have references.


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Reply #20 - 10/28/19 at 18:06:37
 

 Given your history of claiming you have proof of things you don't actually have,  I'm not going to take much of what you claim to say as fact.

 For instance where's the case, the actual legal case number of the prosecution for shooting armor piercing bullets into a person when the impacts were actually in the face?  

 Where is that case?  What state?  What court?
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Reply #21 - 10/28/19 at 18:29:02
 
Eegore wrote on 10/28/19 at 18:06:37:
 Given your history of claiming you have proof of things you don't actually have,  I'm not going to take much of what you claim to say as fact.

This is actually funny.  I JUST did a search and got a Page full.
Do as tt often said !!!!!

the actual legal case number of the prosecution for shooting armor piercing bullets into a person when the impacts were actually in the face?  

Again, Never said that. 'shooting armor piercing bullets... impacts ... in the face'



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Reply #22 - 10/28/19 at 19:27:33
 
"Again, Never said that. 'shooting armor piercing bullets... impacts ... in the face'"

 Did you use the word "head" ?

 I recall you bringing up a case where cop-killer bullets impacted in a location other than body armor and that evidence was used in court to change law.

 I've heard of this case in a few places, but nobody can reference it.
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Reply #23 - 10/28/19 at 20:00:10
 
MnSpring wrote on 10/28/19 at 15:39:54:
What about those lower grading students, who would have failed, they now get getting passing grades, for doing NO work.

I went to some length to explain this so that even a person of your limited intellect could understand what you keep repeating is simply wrong.   Minimal-effort-Spring demonstrates, once again, that you can lead a bore to culture, but you can't make him think.

Here, I'll post it in a larger font with less challenging characters and a color that might hold your attention; sorry, no cartoons- you'll just have to make pictures in your head:

The curve adjusts regard of results to reflect reasonable expectations.   Were we to test a group of 6-year-olds on economics, those scoring above 50% might be extraordinary, while a majority achieving in the 20 percentile, average.   Let's take a not-so hypothetical class, tested on metrics, in which most score in the 80-90% range.   Exceptional?  No, they are average- you’d have to score perfect or near perfect to be above average.   Consider then the case of the lazy and ignorant Minimal-effort-Spring- despite knowing little-to-nothing about The Curve, he manages to guess well on the multiple choice test, scoring 75% -but because grading is 'on the curve', he still fails. A common example of laziness and ignorance being recognized- not “rewarded” -when applying a curve.
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Reply #24 - 10/28/19 at 20:34:26
 

 Careful, going over how curve grading works mathematically is too specific.  We need to stick with conjecture and imagined scenarios.
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Reply #25 - 10/29/19 at 07:47:32
 
Eegore wrote on 10/28/19 at 20:34:26:
 Careful, going over how curve grading works mathematically is too specific.  We need to stick with conjecture and imagined scenarios.



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Reply #26 - 10/29/19 at 08:30:53
 
Eegore wrote on 10/28/19 at 19:27:33:
cop-killer bullets
shooting armor piercing bullets into a person

First, ONLY the UL FDS GBS called, those bullets, 'cop-killer', 'armor piercing'.
They Were NOT
, by any way shape or means.

They just, 'Looked Scary'. They were taken off the market in 92/93 ?

They were the same construction/performance, that other and 100's of today's bullets are made.  
That don't 'LOOK" Scary.

(For the panty in a bunch crowd, 100's, Count H.P Bullets by caliber, by type in that caliber, then weight in that caliber, then multiply that by the numbers of calibers)

So your statement:  "shooting armor piercing bullets into a person" Never happened, it was simply another case where the UL FDS GBS  Made Something UP, Lied by omission of fact, to convince other UL FDS GBS to do something.
All for the fact that that group of UL FDS GBD, were, 'Scared' of a bullet construction.

(Hint, do what tt says)



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Reply #27 - 10/29/19 at 08:43:08
 
It's like his central nervous system is too primitive to register shame.
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Reply #28 - 10/29/19 at 16:01:58
 
"First, ONLY the UL FDS GBS called, those bullets, 'cop-killer', 'armor piercing'.
They Were NOT, by any way shape or means."


 I agree.

 But you mentioned a murder case that involved those bullets that impacted areas of the body other than the armor, and the information in this case was used as leverage to outlaw the bullets.

 Where is this case?
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Reply #29 - 10/30/19 at 06:57:51
 
Eegore wrote on 10/29/19 at 16:01:58:
  I agree.

You stated, ‘I agree’,
when I said these bullets were Not, ‘’cop-killer', 'armor piercing'.'

YET, you, called them, ‘armor piercing bullets'‘ (#20), and ‘cop-killer bullets’, (#22)
You have stated your opinion both ways. Which is it ?

No, it was not, ‘a’, murder case. Again never said it was.

It was a case where several Gun Haters, got in front of a bunch of elected, Gun Haters,
Who allowed them to LIE, by omission of Facts, to convince the elected Gun Haters to ban a certain bullet.
(Just for the panty in a bunch crowd, notice, ’to convince … to ban’.  Not, ’they did', ban)

The nuts of the situation was:
Gun Haters, did NOT call/inform/invite any sensible people.
The elected, Gun Haters, did not call/inform/invite any sensible people.
The gun haters gave their ‘testimony’ in their, ‘eco chamber’, that these, (’Scary’ bullets), were armor piercing, cop-killer bullets.
And to Prove that, they cited 6 police officers that were Killed, while wearing Body armor.
The elected Gun Haters, promptly decided something had to be done about these, ‘scary’ bullets.

The FACTS: The 6 fatally shot cited were over a period of several years.
They were fatally shot in a place they had NO Body Armor covering.
They were NOT, armor piercing, or  cop-killer bullets.

The Gun Haters presented the information in such a way,
And did not call/inform/invite any sensible people to set the record straight.
That the elected Gun Haters, believed these were ultra evil armor piercing, cop-killer bullets.

Rather the same today, when a Mentally Ill person,  wrongly used/s a firearm,
the UL FDS GBS’s solution is to ban that firearm.
Much the same thing as banning red cars, because one was used in a bank robbery.

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