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If I were the Devil
10/05/19 at 17:36:20
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbXyTW8YdZ8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2a9ny...

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If I were the Devil
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Reply #1 - 10/05/19 at 18:29:07
 
I ran across this about 15 years ago, and there is a lot of truth in this short piece.  I grew up listening to Paul Harvey back when radio was truly great.
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Reply #2 - 10/05/19 at 23:59:38
 
I think the devil is mostly between our ears.

Identification with thoughts, (Ego), is our greatest religion.
In that sense we are all devil worshipers.

Every morning we make that religion great again. Wink

If thinking is our greatest religion, and no one can escape thinking, we are under the spell of the devil. literally under the spell.
And nobody is aware of it.

Take a look at how fanatically you defend your ideas.
We are all believers. Tongue

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Reply #3 - 10/06/19 at 07:47:00
 
yes I believe
the potus is one ell of a devil
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Reply #4 - 10/06/19 at 08:00:07
 
zevenenergie wrote on 10/05/19 at 23:59:38:
Take a look at how fanatically you defend your ideas.  

I am not defending, “my”, idea.
I am supporting Freedom,
words written over 240 years ago,
and the Constitution of the United States of America.

A example of: “fanatically you defend your ideas”
is the idea that tt has.
Which is that the current POTUS is a very bad person.
tt ‘defends’ that idea,
despite all sorts of facts saying otherwise.
That is defending a, ‘idea’.
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Reply #5 - 10/06/19 at 08:48:10
 
@Mnspring

There is freedom of thought, and there is freedom of thinking.
What kind of freedom do you think I'm talking about?
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Reply #6 - 10/06/19 at 13:24:08
 
zevenenergie wrote on 10/06/19 at 08:48:10:
There is freedom of thought, and there is freedom of thinking.
What kind of freedom do you think I'm talking about?

You said:
'thoughts, (Ego), is our greatest religion'
'thinking is our greatest religion'


You have said both.
So I don't know which you were/are talking about.
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Reply #7 - 10/06/19 at 13:30:46
 
I didn't understand the question either..
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The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.
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Reply #8 - 10/07/19 at 00:50:52
 
I made a mistake.
I meant to say:

There is freedom of thought, and there is freedom from thought


'thoughts, (Ego), is our greatest religion'
'thinking is our greatest religion'

Sorry for my poor English.

Let me explane.

It is sometimes difficult to know what is meant by ego.
I see thinking and ego as the same phenomenon.

We can think about something, then thoughts are a kind of tool to create something, or to solve a problem.

But there is also a constant stream of thoughts that we cannot stop.
And there is the I, thought that is linked to the I, feeling.

The  I, thought is the ego.  
The I thought or ego, consists of a whole complex of thoughts and feelings.
It is not who we are.
It's a fake I.
(Fake news) Wink

The one that looks at it al (consciousness) is who we really are.

In one way or another, consciousness is completely confiscated, by the thoughts that arise in us.
It is indentified with it.

And that is where all problems come from.
We are so identified with and attached to our thoughts, that we think it's the reality.

We no longer see the reality of things, we see our thoughts about it.

Thinking is a delusion, we let madness rule.
look at trump, you don't find it recognizable how he rules?
Is it not exacly or verry simmelar the way tingking rules our live,s?

It is becource he is identified with tinking too...


There is no awareness or truth whatsoever in thinking. But we value it as much and even more so than the well-known religions.

I don't expect you to get this. you may understand, but understanding is something of the mind.

And again, sorry for my poor English.



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Reply #9 - 10/07/19 at 04:33:09
 
I don't expect you to get this.

Here, let me help explain your thinking: "I hate Donald Trump because everyone who's cool hates Trump so I do too. In order to prove I hate him, I'll assemble an incoherent stream of words together in a few sentences with a negative Trump reference."
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Reply #10 - 10/07/19 at 04:38:23
 
One of the best definitions of evi,  from a TV show.

True evil is, above all things, seductive. When the Devil knocks at your door, he doesn’t have cloven hooves. He is beautiful, and offers you your heart’s desire in whispered airs. Like a siren, beckoning you to ruinous shore.
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Reply #11 - 10/07/19 at 06:26:57
 
Wow man, that’s kool.
Brought me back to early 70’s, kool man,
ya know That Id, Ego, Superego stuff is so far out.
I mean, yea, ya know, it’s far out man.
Really gets the brain a spinning.


‘Ego’ is is the glue, it is the center, Ego is reason, reality.
Ego is what keeps, ‘Id’, the primitive instinct and aggressive in check.
Ego also keeps the Superego, which primarily is taught items,
like Morals, Religion, Hate of the current POTUS, in check.

So, ‘Thinking’ is actually, Ego, arguing with Id and Superego.
And in the case of the TDS affected,
Superego is winning.
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Reply #12 - 10/07/19 at 09:44:07
 


You see it wrong, I like Trump. I would never choose him as a precident. But there is something in him that endeared me.

I don't understand what people see in him as a precident. To me it shows what kind of backward state America is in.

I think the American people are a bunch of assholes because they imposed Trump up on te world. The damage that you have done with this is indescribable.



But you only have an eye for your toys and your rights to be able to shoot people. And argue about it as little children.

What happens in the world through your choice of precidents over the past 30 years, is completely ahead of you.

For me your potash is not the devil, but the american people are responsible for the nuts you impose on to the world and on your self.

And because you are old dicks, you are largely responsible.

Get it now?


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Reply #13 - 10/07/19 at 10:12:08
 
zevenenergie wrote on 10/07/19 at 09:44:07:
I think the American people are a bunch of assholes because they imposed Trump up on te world. The damage that you have done with this is indescribable.

I don't understand why you believe that.

What Willem-Alexander, and Mark Rutte does/say,
Does not affect any Citizen of the US.
So why are you, affected ?

the american people are responsible for the nuts you impose on to the world
How does, what any Citizen of the US does, affect you ?


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Reply #14 - 10/07/19 at 11:03:56
 
Have you than no clou, of how te word looks op on Amerika?
And you have been ridiculed all the way since trump was elected?
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