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Reply #15 - 09/27/19 at 09:19:45
 
I don't think he's a criminal. Your partisanship allows you to see only one side of any issue. Your opinion is completely unreliable as demonstrated time and time again. You've made outlandish claims against Trump (and Kavanaugh) that have been proven false. Yet you cling to them as if their gospel truth. You are a very foolish man.
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Reply #16 - 09/27/19 at 09:26:53
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/27/19 at 09:19:45:
I don't think he's a criminal. Your partisanship allows you to see only one side of any issue. Your opinion is completely unreliable as demonstrated time and time again. You've made outlandish claims against Trump (and Kavanaugh) that have been proven false. Yet you cling to them as if their gospel truth. You are a very foolish man.



Well of course you don't think he's a criminal!  You're so blinded by love that you refuse to see the truth.

His emoluments violations alone are enough grounds to impeach him.  The thing is mark, in his mind, he is innocent.  That's because he doesn't know any better.

But you put any of his transgressions up on a democrat, and you and your con buddies would have been calling for impeachment - don't sit there and lie and say you wouldn't.

The facts are coming to light.  He, once again, asked a foreign power to meddle in our elections.

Don't blame it on my that you're too dumb to see how wrong that is.
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Reply #17 - 09/27/19 at 12:05:19
 
So, then this has come to light:


White House attorneys directed sealing of phone transcript


WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House on Friday confirmed a key detail in the intelligence whistleblower's complaint alleging that President Donald Trump abused the power of his office.

A senior administration official acknowledged that the rough transcript of Trump's July 25 phone conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy was moved to a highly classified system maintained by the National Security Council at the direction of attorneys. The motivation and timing of the move remained unclear.

The whistleblower complaint, which is at the center of House Democrats' impeachment inquiry, said the move to "lock down" details of the call suggested that "White House officials understood the gravity of what had transpired in the call." Trump has argued everything was "appropriate."

White House attorneys were made aware of concerns about Trump's comments on the call before the intelligence community whistleblower sent his allegations to the inspector general.

The official was granted anonymity Friday to discuss sensitive matters.

Confirmation of the detail came as Trump stepped up his campaign against the anonymous whistleblower and the unnamed "White House officials" cited in the complaint, drawing a warning from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi against retaliation.

The complaint alleges that Trump abused the power of his office to "solicit interference from a foreign country" in next year's U.S. election. In the July 25 phone call, days after ordering a freeze to some military assistance for Ukraine, Trump prodded the new Ukrainian president to investigate Democratic rival Joe Biden and volunteered the assistance of both his personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, and Attorney General William Barr.

Late Thursday, Trump denounced people who might have talked to the whistleblower as "close to a spy" and suggested they engaged in treason, an act punishable by death. Then on Friday, he targeted the complainant, a CIA officer, tweeting, "Sounding more and more like the so-called Whistleblower isn't a Whistleblower at all."

He also alleged without evidence that information in the complaint has been "proved to be so inaccurate," though none of the allegations have been demonstrated to be incorrect.

Pelosi told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" show, "I'm concerned about some of the president's comments about the whistleblower."

She said the House panels conducting the impeachment probe will make sure there's no retaliation against people who provided information in the case. On Thursday, House Democratic chairmen called Trump's comments "witness intimidation" and suggested efforts by him to interfere with the potential witness could be unlawful.

Trump's Friday comment questioning the whistleblower's status could foreshadow an effort to argue that legal protection laws don't apply to the person, opening a new front in the president's battles with Congress. The intelligence community's inspector general found the whistleblower's complaint "credible" despite finding indications of the person's support for a different political candidate.

As more Democrats have lent support to investigations that could result in the removal of the president, Pelosi has moved to focus the probe on the Ukraine matter, rather than the array of other open inquiries.

"I think we have to stay focused, as far as the public is concerned, on the fact that the president of the United States used taxpayer dollars to shake down the leader of another country for his own political gain," she said Friday.

Pelosi declined to provide a timeline for the House impeachment investigation.

"They will take the time that they need, and we won't have the calendar be the arbiter," she said. But she added, "It doesn't have to drag on."

Meanwhile, Republicans were straining under the uncertainty of being swept up in the most serious test yet of their alliance with the Trump White House.

"We owe people to take it seriously," said Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., a onetime Trump rival who is now a member of the intelligence committee.

"Right now, I have more questions than answers," he said. "The complaint raises serious allegations, and we need to determine whether they're credible or not."

Legal experts said that by following proper procedures and filing a complaint with the government rather than disclosing the information to the media, the person is without question regarded as a whistleblower entitled to protections against being fired or criminally prosecuted.

"This person clearly followed the exact path he was supposed to follow," said Debra D'Agostino, a lawyer who represents whistleblowers. "There is no basis for not calling this person a whistleblower."

Lawyers say it also doesn't matter for the purposes of being treated as a whistleblower if all of the allegations are borne out as entirely true, or even if political motives or partisanship did factor into the decision to come forward.

"What a whistleblower needs to have is a reasonable belief that the information they're disclosing and complaining about could be a violation of a law, rule or regulation," said Eric Bachman, another Washington lawyer who represents whistleblowers. "They do not need to be certain that there is a violation. It does not need to be proven in a court of law that there is a violation."

Fresh questions were raised late Thursday about how the White House and the Justice Department handled the whistleblower complaint. The administration initially blocked Congress from viewing it, and only released a redacted version to lawmakers this week after the impeachment inquiry had begun.

White House and Justice Department attorneys were aware of the concerns about Trump's call with Zelenskiy before the complaint was filed, according to a U.S. official and a person familiar with the matter. The intelligence official initially filed a complaint about Trump's dealings with Ukraine with the CIA, which then alerted the White House and the Justice Department, before filing with the intelligence community's inspector general, a process that granted the individual more legal protection.

The person familiar with the matter, as well as another person with knowledge of the case, confirmed that the whistleblower was a CIA officer.

The Associated Press is publishing information about the whistleblower's background because the person's credibility is central to the impeachment inquiry into the president. The New York Times first reported that the individual was a CIA officer.

The U.S. official and the two people familiar with the matter spoke to the AP on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

The whistleblower's attorney, Mark Zaid, said publishing details about the individual places the person in a dangerous situation, personally and professionally. The CIA referred questions to the inspector general.




Yeah, again... these are the actions of an innocent man????

NOPE!
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Reply #18 - 09/27/19 at 13:01:33
 
I never said impeach Obama despite his AG in Fast and Furious, when he repeatedly lied about ObamaCare, and a host of other actions arguable far more deceitful than Trump.

Here's the thing you can't get through your little head. I know Trump completely. I see him with 100% clarity. I give him great allowances that would never be given to others. But he's not broken my trust that he was the best person for the job in 2016 and based on the F UPS running against him now, he's still the best.

It's you who are blind my friend. You've demonstrated it time and time again. You've predicted his imminent doom numerous times because you are blind to reality. You're a bull that sees a red cape and all you can do is charge. Like I said, you are a foolish man.



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Reply #19 - 09/27/19 at 13:15:13
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/27/19 at 13:01:33:
I never said impeach Obama despite his AG in Fast and Furious, when he repeatedly lied about ObamaCare, and a host of other actions arguable far more deceitful than Trump.

LMAO - seriously????

Have you never read trump's twitter feed?  He's lied almost as many times as jog's posted on here!!!   Grin

Oh, and as far as Obama "lying" about ACA, that's not even close to anything impeachable.  Same goes for F&F.  That's more Holder than Obama.

But hey, I'll be your huckleberry - what are the "host of other actions" that are so much worse than trump's?

Please, if they were so bad, they should be easy to find and list, huh?

(truth is, there ain't - it's just all in your head)


Here's the thing you can't get through your little head. I know Trump completely. I see him with 100% clarity. I give him great allowances that would never be given to others. But he's not broken my trust that he was the best person for the job in 2016 and based on the F UPS running against him now, he's still the best.

You may want to go back and reread that last paragraph.

You just proved me right.  You will never - EVER find fault with trump.  Even if he's found guilty beyond reasonable doubt by Congress, you'll find some lame-ass excuse about "abuse of power", "unfair rules", etc...


It's you who are blind my friend. You've demonstrated it time and time again. You've predicted his imminent doom numerous times because you are blind to reality. You're a bull that sees a red cape and all you can do is charge. Like I said, you are a foolish man.

Again mark, we're not friends.

That being said, anyone can plainly see that every single thing you try to pin on me is something that you yourself have done.

You are right though, I predicted that trump won't last through his first term.

There's still time for me to be right.

You can say "I told you so" if he makes it to election day, 2020 - m'kay?





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Reply #20 - 09/27/19 at 13:37:33
 
That being said, anyone can plainly see that every single thing you try to pin on me is something that you yourself have done.
That's just simply not true. There is nobody like you on here.


You are right though, I predicted that trump won't last through his first term.
Nice try, but fake news.  You've have made predictions after predictions that have been wrong. Not by a little wrong but way wrong. Good God man, you use to say he won't make it through the week a couple times a month! Don't recall the exact details but you were giddy that Trump JR was on his way to jail any second because he didn't answer a reporters question or something! You're a fool......     It's okay friend, I need a fool as a friend for my quota. Thanks Buddy...

Now go have a nice weekend.
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Reply #21 - 09/27/19 at 13:49:34
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/27/19 at 13:37:33:
That being said, anyone can plainly see that every single thing you try to pin on me is something that you yourself have done.
That's just simply not true. There is nobody like you on here.

That's not what I said.  I'm saying that you accuse me of responding blindly, yet you do the exact same thing with trump and practically every republican.

You are right though, I predicted that trump won't last through his first term.
Nice try, but fake news.  You've have made predictions after predictions that have been wrong.

I wonder, did I ever give specific dates?  What other predictions have I made?

Not by a little wrong but way wrong. Good God man, you use to say he won't make it through the week a couple times a month!

Did I?  If that's true, please show me.  Now, I may have said "I wish..", but that's not the same as a prediction.

I await for your non-response.


Don't recall the exact details but you were giddy that Trump JR was on his way to jail any second because he didn't answer a reporters question or something!

Like I said, I can wish...

You're a fool......     It's okay friend, I need a fool as a friend for my quota. Thanks Buddy...

Never, not even if my life depended on it.  But you go ahead and feel how you want.

Hey - so, I take it you have no proof of all the "Obama atrocities", huh?

LOL - yet another thing I'm right about!


Now go have a nice weekend.


I will - as I do every weekend.
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Reply #22 - 09/28/19 at 11:28:09
 
why the cover up if nothing is wrong?
I keep remembering the photo of trickey(I am not a crook) dickey on the steps of marine one waving good bye

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Reply #23 - 09/28/19 at 11:57:38
 
Biden , on video bragging, about threatening to not release a billion dollars, means nothing.
Trump releases the transcript, and it's a cover up.

You people are unhinged.
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Reply #24 - 09/28/19 at 13:33:50
 
thumperclone wrote on 09/28/19 at 13:32:57:
the presidents aides were trying to protect him, but in the process made clear they thought his behavior was problematic

your love of the clown is mispent
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Reply #25 - 09/28/19 at 13:38:55
 
Biden BRAGGED, on video, about holding a Billion Dollars hostage Unless the investigator who was looking at Hunter was Fired.
Trump looking into that is your problem?
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Reply #26 - 09/28/19 at 13:57:14
 
Biden's action was in accordance with Obama, May, Merkel, and many other allies...
Trump's action inexplicably unilateral, and even went against the wishes of Congress...
Trump was acting in his own self interest.
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Reply #27 - 09/28/19 at 14:05:45
 
removal of the corrupt prosecutor was the position of the wider U.S. gov as well as other international institutions
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Reply #28 - 09/28/19 at 14:07:09
 
Serowbot wrote on 09/28/19 at 13:57:14:
Biden's action was in accordance with Obama, May, Merkel, and many other allies...
Trump's action inexplicably unilateral, and even went against the wishes of Congress...
Trump was acting in his own self interest.

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Reply #29 - 09/28/19 at 15:07:46
 
T And T Garage wrote on 09/27/19 at 13:15:13:
that's not even close to anything impeachable.  Same goes for F&F.  

What was that you said ?
"I can lead the ignorant to school, but I can't make them learn"

In the case of F & F, you have been schooled several times.
You KNOW, what the Truth is.
Yet you totally refuse to acknowledge it.

Just the SAME, as YOU accuse others here of !



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