This is what someone else said, Yet it IS, what 'Red' laws can most likely become.
This IS the way it will happen. It already has in a few states...

It’s a Sunday night and your family has all gone to bed. You let the dogs back in and lock the deadbolt like you do every night. All the lights are off now except a couple of night lights scattered throughout the house leaving that dim glow throughout your home. It’s bedtime and work and school are going to come early in the morning. You crawl in bed, kiss your wife and drift off to sleep being thankful for the air conditioning that allows you to pull that heavy quilt up over your shoulder despite the fact it’s still 85 degrees outside. A few hours pass...

0200 Monday morning and your wife taps your leg and says, “baby I heard something outside”. As you sit up in bed you hear the dog growling in the living room and you know something isn’t right. You grab that trusty 'ol 870 and head into the living room. Your wife grabs her 9mm and heads down the hall to the kids rooms just like you have rehearsed. “Good boy” you say as you enter the living room, trying to calm both the dog and your wife just as splinters fly across the room and the front door flies open. “Oh nuts!” As you shoulder your weapon and send a load of 00 Buck across your living room and see the perpetrator fall in a heap. Before the “thank God” can even run across your brain, you see a second man coming in the door and you fire again. This time you hear the pop of your wife’s 9mm as she has joined in the fight. It has to be those darn meth heads from down in town! Just then you are consumed by a wall of bullets as you see multiple muzzle flashes from just outside the door and you realize something isn’t right. You turn to yell at your wife to “get down” just in time to see her take a load of buckshot to the face and her brain matter splatter the wall behind her. You feel the burning as 5.56 rounds riddle your body. One clips your spine as you’re scrambling away and paralyzes your lower body. The last thing you see before you bleed out is a SWAT guy from your local PD holding your teenage daughter on the floor with a knee in her back as she screams and cry’s because she just watched her parents being murdered.

Why did this happen? You’re no criminal. You’re a Conservative and an honest family man. Your wife is a school teacher and your daughters are on honor roll. Why did this happen?

Well two days ago, you and your wife went down to welcome the new neighbors to the community. Your wife made them some of her “world famous” cookies and you invited them to church on Sunday. Later that afternoon, you got a friend request on Facebook from your new neighbor, which you gladly accepted. They seemed a little odd, but in the few minutes you talked they were pleasant enough. The next day while you and your family sat in church,

your new neighbor scrolled through your Facebook profile. He saw that “Trump 2020” post and got infuriated because he’s a staunch liberal and he hates your kind. The next thing he sees are the hunting pictures you took last fall when your daughter bagged her first buck. Now he’s seething with fury because he is wholeheartedly against the “slaughter of innocent animals”. Next he sees your post from the last range day with your buddy and sees those scary black assault weapons on the table and that does it! He has to do something about the racist, right wing extremist, domestic terrorist living next door.

He picks up the phone, calls the local Sheriffs Office and reports you as a threat under the new Red Flag law. The Sheriffs Office follows their SOP’s and conducts a no knock warrant because you have now been denied due process and you are considered guilty until proven innocent.

Now you, your lovely wife and two deputies have been killed for nothing. Your daughter will have absolute hell for the rest of her life. She will never be that successful person you dreamed for her to be because of the mental tragedy caused from seeing her parents murdered. The local news paper will report that you were killed after firing-on, and killing, two deputies and that “over a thousand rounds of ammo and 22 guns were confiscated from your residence”.

Oh... those two deputies were just following orders. They left behind families as well and had served their community for over a decade. They didn’t know you were a stand-up guy with a great family. They weren’t allowed time to investigate things under due process. They were told you had threatened your neighbor and were out in the street waving an AR15 around.

This is the reality of Red Flag gun laws. Innocent people will lose their lives, including police serving these unconstitutional no-knock warrants. Red Flag laws will be used for petty and vengeful reasons without merit by gun hating liberals who believe if you own guns, that it somehow automatically makes you a threat to society and therefore you are a right wing extremist domestic terrorist who MUST be stopped and neutralized at all costs (for the safety of others).

Do not forget that ALL gun laws are an infringement of your rights!

Oh? Didn't a couple online video gamers get into an argument and one of them called 9/11 claiming the other had a gun and hostages or something like that and SWAT descended on that guys house with no warning and he ended up dead. The gamer caller got convicted and sent to jail.

Red flag laws will be abused like hell. Somebody like TT would flag me or Mn in a heartbeat. School administrators, like the ones who thought a lunatic like the Parkland High School killer needed to be in a regular school but kick a student out of class for wearing a red Trump hat, are the ones who get to make decisions. Seriously?

WebsterMark wrote on 09/22/19 at 04:57:46:


Ha....if only.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/22/19 at 11:27:30:



The OP ranks right up there with Obama's guaranteed imposing sharia law.  LOL


But hey, you right wingers are fun to rile up.

It's so easy!

Thanks jog!

Eegore wrote on 09/22/19 at 09:55:44:


So you want me to go through the news and post numerous incidents where people used laws in their favor to terrorize their enemies which will prompt you to respond with the obvious response that a few bad people do bad things? No thanks. But the fact remains it happens and it will happen more. We have enough laws on the books. The police visited the Parkland High School shooter dozens of times but "educated" school administrators kept him in public schools. I've read that was based on directives from Obama's Dept of Education. I don't know if that's true or not but regardless, someone should have said no. But because they didn't, leftist respond with more laws that will ultimately accomplish nothing.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/22/19 at 20:21:12:



LOL, yeah, get scared and peddle fear!  War on Christmas!  Sharia law!  Pizzagate!  etc., etc.....

Handgun Control, Inc. (now Brady) openly called for a ban on the civilian possession of handguns.
NCCH (National Council to Control Handguns) Chairman Pete Shields said In a 1976 interview with the New Yorker:

"I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily—given the political realities—going to be very modest… So then we’ll have to start working again to strengthen that law and then  again to strengthen the next law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice.
Our ultimate goal—total control of handguns in the United States—is going to take time.”


September 19th, Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers, Attorney General Josh Kaul, Representative Melissa Sargent (D-48), and Senator Lena Taylor (D-4) held a press conference calling on the Legislature to violate the Second Amendment by: 1) allowing confiscation of firearms without due process; and 2) criminalizing private transfers.
“Extreme Risk Protection Order” laws—the kind of scheme that Gov. Evers would like to impose—seek to confiscate firearms while suspending your Second Amendment rights. This is why lawful gun owners who would otherwise defend themselves are often excluded from the very hearings where the gun-grab is ordered. If Gov. Evers gets his way, every Wisconsin citizen would be vulnerable to such orders, which do not rest upon a criminal conviction or adjudication of dangerously mental illness.
Under Gov. Evers’ approach, your
Second Amendment rights would be usurped by uncorroborated third party allegations.  
Existing studies of these laws—even when conducted by anti-gun researchers—confirm that such laws are ineffective at reducing homicides or suicides.

New York City, is the hardest place to get a handgun license. The only feasible choice is a “premises license.” That license allows a person to keep a handgun in his or her home or place of business. Even then, the process takes many months, multiple trips to police headquarters, and hundreds of dollars in mandatory fees. Licensing officials also have broad discretion to deny licenses, even when the applicant has no criminal convictions.

Tell me again how, ‘red’ laws will work ?

Oh Wait, Bot/tt, 'say' they have a gun.
So none of this is happening !

"Gee Wally, how come, it used to be, 'Merry Christmas',
then for 8 years it was, 'Happy Holidays',
and now it's back to, 'Merry Christmas' ? "

 Anecdotal at best.  No law governs this, try again.

"Gee Wally how come before 2008, very few even heard about 'Sharia law'.
Then for 8 years, a group of people said that should be adopted,
even though it conflicted in many cases with the current USA Law.
And now, only the very fringe,  UL, FDS, Socialists are saying that."

 Reference or story time?  You decide!