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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Well that's a bummer 09/11/19 at 17:39:28 https://www.theblaze.com/news/retiring-worn-out-wind-turbines-is-a-wasteful-p...
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28752 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Well that's a bummer Reply #1 - 09/12/19 at 07:58:19 I think they would make great pilings.
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Reply #2 - 09/12/19 at 08:30:03

I guess they're working on it.
https://www.harvestpublicmedia.org/post/wind-energy-thrives-so-does-its-waste...
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Englund believes he’s found a way to recycle blades by grinding them up to make chocolate chip-sized pellets. They can be used for decking materials, pallets and piping. His startup opened its first processing facility in central Texas this year, and are leasing a second space near Des Moines, Iowa.

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Reply #3 - 09/12/19 at 08:44:46

Here is a idea,
Plant the blades in the ground, to make a really tall fence,
with pointy ends !!!!!!!!!

What we see now with the problem of dealing with wind turbines,
is just the tip of the iceberg.

When it comes to dealing with disposal of inefficient Photovoltaic Cells,
make sure you are on high ground.
Cause the melting Snowflakes, sure are going to create a flood !!!!

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28362 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Well that's a bummer Reply #4 - 09/12/19 at 09:09:43 At least they're not radioactive.
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 7987	Re: Well that's a bummer Reply #5 - 09/12/19 at 10:46:29 If millions of cars, planes and trains on the road makes no difference to the environment, why would a lower amount wind turbines?
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: Well that's a bummer Reply #6 - 09/12/19 at 12:31:59 Eegore wrote on 09/12/19 at 10:46:29: If millions of cars, planes and trains on the road makes no difference to the environment, why would a lower amount wind turbines? Once again - well put Eegore.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28752 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Well that's a bummer Reply #7 - 09/12/19 at 13:28:43 MnSpring wrote on 09/12/19 at 08:44:46: Here is a idea, Plant the blades in the ground, to make a really tall fence, with pointy ends !!!!!!!!! So recycle them for the border wall... cool.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Well that's a bummer Reply #8 - 09/12/19 at 16:40:55 Eegore wrote on 09/12/19 at 10:46:29: If millions of cars, planes and trains on the road makes no difference to the environment, why would a lower amount wind turbines? Looks like you didn't read the problem.
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Reply #9 - 09/12/19 at 16:49:45

They last 20 years, and will improve in the future.
How much coal ash does that equate to in 20 years?

More than 100 million tons of coal ash and other waste products are produced by coal-fired power plants in the United States every year
After coal is mined, it is typically washed with water and chemicals to remove impurities before it’s burned. The resulting coal slurry must then be stored, often with coal ash or in improvised ponds that can leak, spill, or fail. In 2000, the bottom of a Kentucky coal slurry impoundment gave way, contaminating more than a hundred miles of rivers and streams with more than 300,000,000 gallons of thick black sludge—30 times larger than the Exxon-Valdez oil spill.
https://www.ucsusa.org/clean-energy/coal-and-other-fossil-fuels/coal-water-po...

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Serowbot wrote on 09/12/19 at 16:49:45:

They last 20 years, and will improve in the future.
How much coal ash does that equate to in 20 years?...

Valid question.
But don't ASSume the wind Kilowatts generated from wind power,
are the same as Coal power.

Find the number of Kilowatts produced by Wind,
in the last 20 years.
AND, the 'Carbon Footprint', created by that wind power.
AND the Carbon Footprint the, up keep, repair, removal is.

THEN, compare that with the SAME Kilowatts produced by Coal,
and that Carbon Footprint,
(Divided so the numbers are Equal)

Now, ask the question.

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Re: Well that's a bummer
Reply #11 - 09/13/19 at 07:55:36

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The output of a wind turbine depends on the turbine's size and the wind's speed through the rotor. An average onshore wind turbine with a capacity of 2.5–3 MW can produce more than 6 million kWh in a year – enough to supply 1,500 average EU households with electricity.

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Megawatts are used to measure the output of a power plant or the amount of electricity required by an entire city. One megawatt (MW) = 1,000 kilowatts = 1,000,000 watts. For example, a typical coal plant is about 600 MW in size.

600 MW / 3 MW = 200 wind mills per coal plant

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On average, one kilowatt-hour of produces a little over one pound of carbon dioxide (CO2)

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Beneficial use is the recycling or reuse of coal ash in lieu of disposal. For example, coal ash is an important ingredient in the manufacture of concrete and wallboard, and EPA supports the responsible use of coal ash in this manner.

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Burning 4 to 8 tons of coal produces 1 ton of coal ash.

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the electricity generated per ton of coal is 0.4 x 6,150 kWh or 2,460 kWh/ton.

800 lbs = 1 MWh

So 1 wind mill is worth 2400 lbs of coal (per hour) or 400 lbs of coal ash of which 2/3 is recycled.

Blades aren't recycled as yet but they are trying.
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An innovative solution has also been developed to recycle blades made from glass fibre. They are crushed and mixed with other components and become an excellent solid fuel for the cement industry, replacing traditional fossil fuels, such as fuel oil as well as using the glass fibre residues within the cement matrix

How much co2 in a blade? Shocked

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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 7987	Re: Well that's a bummer Reply #12 - 09/13/19 at 08:04:41 How much co2 in a blade? But you forget, co2 isn't a problem so that data is not to be applied.
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Reply #13 - 09/13/19 at 08:32:38

I'm sure coal is much more efficient today than it used to be.
Imagine how efficient wind will be in 25 years.
The major difference is coal will run out,.. wind won't.

You can poo poo wind and solar all you want, but you'll lose in the long run...
Oil and coal will eventually become cost prohibitive, so we are smart to develop alternatives.
Given that reality, I can't see why there is even an argument here.

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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: Well that's a bummer Reply #14 - 09/13/19 at 09:23:44 Eegore wrote on 09/13/19 at 08:04:41: How much co2 in a blade? But you forget, co2 isn't a problem so that data is not to be applied. Whoa - Eegore snapping it back! Yes!!
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