MnSpring wrote on 09/11/19 at 15:22:43:raydawg wrote on 09/11/19 at 14:47:45:Some form of trying to identify those who SHOULD NOT own a weapon, is not the same as forbidding a person of sound mind and law abiding....to owning a gun....
True.
The problem is,
that is NOT the goal for the people that want to write the laws.Take a 'red' law.
(Where anyone can 'tell on' anyone)
A girlfriend, a neighbor, someone who just doesn't like the way you look,
'can', say,
"Hey that person .....".
Then, 'that' person has all their guns taken away !
Yes, 'red' laws are good, if they are written well.
Not written with the Goal, of
JUST removing firearms.
Like the, 'law' Obama wrote. Where Mom/Pop sold everything, bought a motor-home, and are traveling around the country. Because each week they are in a different place, they 'assigned' a trusted person/child/etc, to take over their financial affairs, to pay their bills.
Under Obama, they were, 'Mentally Ill', because it was deemed, they could not handle their financial affairs.
That was written with the EXPLICIT Goal of BANNING Firearms.(For the TDS people. One of the FIRST things Trump did was remove it)Honest upstanding people absolutely should have the absolute ability to own a firearm.
And crooks, thief's, criminals, felons, terrorists, mental ill, should NOT.
Not a problem identifying who are, crooks, thief's,etc, by past behavior.
The challenge is, who will/could, be one in the future ?
And are ALL, Honest upstanding people, to give up their Freedom,
Just because, 'that', person, 'Maybe bad', 'because, 'she', said so?
Buddy, we have so much more we can tap into in finding ways to keep the right to a gun, and to protecting those who choose not to pack.
Its not a all, or nothing, equation....
And we can't let the failures of the past, look how many gun laws, hell, all laws, that are still broken and NOT honored.....
We have new technology, example, go online and try to buy something with a fake credit card #.
It takes but mere seconds to decline that transaction.
This has to be available to law enforcement too, or some form like it....
Like a sobriety check point, yes, it can be a inconvenience, but if it saves lives, isn't that what a responsible society should encourage....?
You get caught, guess what, you were breaking the law, do NOT tell me about probable cause limitations, we are taking
pro-active measures for the
betterment and
safety of others....
It gives them a right to check your breath, not whats in your trunk, etc...