No, you probably can't. I wouldn't say never, but I wouldn't plan a program around it.

2-3% of the population have abnormal sexual deformities. We know that.

Between people in authority in today's world who push prayer as a conversion therapy and similar people in authority who allow grade schoolers to claim gender reidentification; which is more common, which harms more children and which is more likely to be embraced, encouraged or even celebrated by the widespread news and entertainment cultures?

"Abnormal Sexual deformities"?  Really?  What's "abnormal"?  What's "normal"?

I think practically by definition, in any large group, if you're in the 2% range, you're outside the norm.

I don't know about you, but I never had to "choose" who I am - I just am.  That goes for all the gay folks I know.  They don't choose to be gay, they just are.
I agree 100%. You can't fake that. You either are, or you are not. But people have all types of inherent behavior that they take specific actions to control.

What's more - they pose no threat to anyone.  But that doesn't stop the Christian right, the conservatives and other homophobes from peddling fear.  This conversion therapy is a perfect example.
The % of Christians who threated homosexuals is minimal and getting smaller everyday. It's frankly a non-issue, but it does make a handy issue to bring up. I would challenge you to say you're gay, go visit 20 churches at random and see how many ask you to leave.

But to compare that to being inclusive to the LGBT community is ridiculous.
How can being empathetic and understanding be "harmful"?
I would think if you did some research, you'd find people who claimed conversion therapy guided them to a different lifestyle. I would never suggest any health or social institution direct anyone to go to a church and get saved from their gay sin.

Face it, you posted that article to try and make an issue out of something which is so very minor in the big scheme of things. But you be you.

To quote a few people

They just didn't go far enough.
Yes, a twisted heart can be made straight, but Only through prayer. A man can see his faults, the things in his heart that are an abomination in the eyes of God, but he can't fix it. Only through a sorrowful heart, praying for change, will change come. And then, only in God's time. Twenty years may not have been enough. I had a different problem and it took longer. But I knew that if I died before I was saved, I'd never see heaven, and IN being saved, we
Become a new creature,
And Ezekiel 36:26 says
I will remove your heart of stone and replace it with one of flesh..

And now, I FEEL things that I didn't know anyone felt. I feel absolute Joy when I meditate on the things God has taught me. People Treat me differently.
I can absolutely say
Proper prayer, Diligently pursuing God, and a contrite heart will be rewarded.

Pray until something happens.
If it's eating at your guts and you know it's against God, how could anyone ever stop asking for it to be fixed?

Like I said
Me neither
Wrong in the eyes of God is wrong.
The bible addresses sexuality.
Read it.

You may have read it
But you don't understand it.
Jesus saved the lamb on the Sabbath.
You're unable to see the difference between the old and new testament.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/05/19 at 11:49:56:


So... I shouldn't kill my neighbor if he works on the Sabbath?

If you follow the Bible, can you eat shellfish?



I know one thing jog - you cannot have the New without the Old.

All or nothing.  Hey, that's the way you treat Muslims... turnabout is fair play.

I know one thing jog - you cannot have the New without the Old.

You're totally ignorant.
And I am done.
Arguing the bible with godless people is a fruitless endeavor.

I actually posted what I said for others.
I knew what you lefties would say.

Pearls/ Swine..