Kinda odd that the democrats are hoping for a recession to take out Trump.

What makes them think that they won't be hurt by it, just like Russia, Mueller, Avenatti & Stormy, etc.....

I gotta believe they will catch the scrutiny, as Trump would turn it back on them, just like everything else he has been able to skate by.

Lets say it works, through all the negative narratives, etc, a recession comes to be, Trump lost.....now they will have to dig themselves outta a hole, or face a angry electorate come midterm.

Not to even mention how the winner would have to placate those who want FREE SOCIALISM.....
When the economy is down, how is that going to generate the money to pay for it?

Times running out on this get Trump and all the dead ends.....

Me thinks they better get a message together, and it better be one that resonates with swing voters, and quick.....
They shouldn't be spending so much time and energy on their base, not at this point.
I think because Hillary had to fight off Bernie, so late in the game, she never could get on even ground with her message to the, er....deplorables, and it cost her ( yeah, I know about her negative numbers, that is a different issue ).

Pissing off more Trump supports will just drive more to the polls.

How they can stir up such anger, and then expect these folks to just "turn it off" and jell behind the candidate, that was just spewing hate at their choice of candidate, seems a big leap in faith.....which I find hard to accept, given the nature of these folks to begin with.  

They hate Trump more, that's the reasoning....
Not very solid, or sure, in my view.

 

Serowbot wrote on 08/26/19 at 17:04:53:


I can't argue that at face value, that was a contributing factor no doubt....
But you neglected the second element to my observation and that is these voters appear at fever pitch, against each other.....
Lots of fanning the flames, etc....
With Trump against Hillary, the voters who put Trump in were almost as mad at their own party choices, I believe, so it was not so fragmented....

I mean look how fast Bush, got dumped, as compared to Bernie dogging Hillary up to the end, practically....

Serowbot wrote on 08/26/19 at 17:04:53:


No. You're missing a key element.

Yes, the hatred towards Hillary Clinton was huge. Assume the hatred towards Trump in those 5 or 6 key swing states is equal. (huge assumption but let's go with it)
The other element was the widespread resentment towards the biased media and the entertainment culture. Trump's popularity also was based on his ability to flip the middle finger to the network news and Katy Perry, Bruce Springsteen, Alex Baldwin etc....  That added an element to the equation that doesn't exist today.

Assume the hatred for Trump is equal. What else pushes the Democrat candidate over the top?

The other element was the widespread resentment towards the biased media and the entertainment culture.

I believe this element is surely a factor Mark.
Given the low ratings at CNN, etc, shows folks are turning them off, and we know what their message is.

I think it also taints polls, as these folks just don't participate in them.

Its hard to count those who do not want to be counted.

I also think the all the failed "WE GOT TRUMP..... THIS TIME" has led to people just ignoring them.

I see these voters growing, not shrinking, especially in the minority communities that have fared historically better, than ever before, the incessant pandering, is having a negative effect, on those who have enjoyed that success.

WebsterMark wrote on 08/27/19 at 05:15:56:

The "top" is around 40%...  it ain't all that high a hurdle.

Trump's only hope is Putin's ability to interfere.
7,000 farms closed in Wisconsin alone.. That is at least 10.000 votes I doubt will go to Trump... when he can't afford to lose one.  What about all the farmers in other states?... miners, steel workers, truckers, assembly line workers?
Tariffs are killing them.
First time voters are 70% Democrat... the Republican base isn't growing.  They're younger, more diverse, better educated, more worldly.  

I don't just see Trump losing,.. I see him getting buried.

Yer' a legend in your own mind...