"That doesn't make sense, should have been 100 years ago right?  In 2002/2003 during this global warming catastrophe, Michigan had the longest, coldest winter on record."

 That's not how global warming works.  This is part of why the terminology was revised to climate "change". If you are saying climate change is only an increase in temperature universally across the globe then yes, wherever you got that information was very wrong, that from what I have seen is not possible.  For instance "global warming" should decrease temperatures in certain latitudes.

 I know at my place in CO it is warmer, and at my place in NY it is colder.  So in CO global warming is a for sure thing, but in NY its fake.

And these changes are positively attributed to the change in climate that is positively attributed to mankind's increase of co2?

11,000 people did not die in France because of climate change. That's ridiculous.

How about the more likely explanation which is that an ageing population closely clustered together in areas of higher than average poverty had deaths from a typical and expected summer heat wave. The death toll was estimated and declared "probably" correct. You know, 'probably'.... that very scientific term.

Willing to bet a few months from now a report will come out quietly noting that the actual death toll was substantially less. Willing to bet you won't post that.
 

You see, here's the thing: I'm the one with the reasonable point of you on this topic. You've seen Sew and TT post ridiculous claims about climate change.  My position is that it's very likely humans have affected the climate, not the weather but the climate. It seems logical to assume 7 1/2 billion people would do that.  I just don't see nor have I read anything that honestly makes me believe it is as serious as claimed. And I think its likely as we continue to progress from a technological point of view, the likelihood decreases.

Think for a minute if we'd had an Internet and a motorcycle forum back in the 70s. Paul Ehrlich was crying about world population growth and how we were all going to be dead from starvation soon. My guess is the leftist on here would've hopped right on board with that. No questions asked; they would've been trumpeting his claims as gospel truth at the top of their voices. Any objections I made would have been met with the same scorn as I get now for suggesting we ask for a little proof before taking action. Think how many times this same scenario has played out? And not just on the left necessary. Remember the dominos falling if we didn't stop the VC?

No, I don't believe its as bad as they say. No, I don't believe Eegore can prove his claims about agriculture. No, ( ha ha ha) just because its snowed and flooded in TT hometown, we're all gonna ice skate to work next week. And no, 11000 people didn't die who otherwise wouldn't have if we'd just listened to Al Gore all those years ago.

Yea cause that’s scientific. The party of science!

"No, I don't believe Eegore can prove his claims about agriculture."

 Why I would have any reason to fabricate agriculture yield numbers I do not know.  They aren't claims, they are numbers, and actual product.  Things we eat.

 If you would like to go over the information I can have it compiled and go over it with you.  My personal hydrology reports I could get sooner, they are only a few hundred pages.  I could have a portfolio done by mid September that you and I could go over that is more extensive.

 Also I could see if any local owners would be willing to talk to you as well.

T And T Garage wrote on 08/19/19 at 11:12:09:


If that suited your partisanship; its entirely believable you'd say that Reverend.

I've often times said you make little sense, but you seem bound and determined to overachieve today.