Eegore wrote on 08/30/19 at 12:39:09:

 ...I do however think that the same number of government takeovers matches exactly the number of confirmed UFO sightings...  

This is interesting.
(Believing you are talking about the USA, because other Countries, 'government takeovers', would be to numerous to list)

In this Country, several large attempts have been made.
And several, small successes, if you are counting incarceration, by the collision of a ADA/Police/Judge.

As to, ...the number of confirmed UFO sightings..., Don't know yet.
Yet it is clear you have formed the opinion that none exist.

Is a opinion formed because a, 'official', government said none exist?
So if someone believes MM & JFK were boinking,
(Because no official 'Government', says they were)
Do they also believe in, 'Flat Earth', or some thing other ?

"The weather stations, which are in the same places for the last 35 years, which provide data for, ...digital weather modeling..., are, short term."

 If compared to the entire history of man on the planet yes.

 But I am talking about digital satellite-assisted weather modeling.  Why would you count any timeframe before a technology exists as part of the overall useable information?  To spin numbers most likely.

 I find it highly unrealistic to use time before satellites as part of the countable timeframe for satellite study.  

 Every time someone talks about the US Constitution I will just state how short term it is compared to the commonly accepted history of the Earth and just use that logic to say it's not really all that useful.  You know, because compared to the timeline of the Earth it really hasn't made much of a difference since we are using time prior to it's creation as part of it's effective use to man.

 If we compare the usefulness of the US Constitution since it's creation and apply it to usage within the US then we can estimate a high number of effectiveness, lets say 99%.  Similar to comparing weather models only within the timeframe they exist and only within the region we are actually talking about.

 If we compare the US Constitution to the age of Earth it's only been around a few hundred years, and we apply it outside the US (look how ineffective it is in N Korea!) we can say its .00000012% effective.

 Or we can stop with the games and just acknowledge that JoG keeps referring to short-term models ignoring that I referenced multi-decade models and not ones that use ground-based weather stations.

"Like giving a person a Life Sentence for a $50.00 robbery.
Not, just,  incarnation for a crime."

 I would say that's unjust, but wouldn't qualify as Martial Law or Government Takeover in my opinion.

 Maybe if they imposed these sentences on people who committed no crime at all.  For instance going into nursing homes and sending them all to prison for loitering or being useless eaters like one of the "predictions" I most recently heard.

I'm in Dallas today where it was over 100 this weekend. I'm heading towards Vegas later today where it's actually cooler. It's summer. it's hot. There are temperature records set every year someplace. A fraction of a degree over the past 30 years isn't why it was over a 100 here. I'll stick with my previous statement as it's yet to be proven wrong.

None of us can conclusively point to a single metric we encounter in our daily lives hat demonstrates climate change. Nothing. Zero. Nada.

Again, you talk smack but can’t definitively list any evidence. You’re part of the hoax, granted, out of sheer ignorance but nonetheless part of it.
Don’t worry, some of us will stop this nonsense before it bankrupts the world, except for the chosen few. Hint; you’re not one of them.

keep disbelieving and think that weather is the same as climate.

Say what? Aren’t you the mental giant pointing out snow fall in your hometown as “evidence “?

WebsterMark wrote on 09/09/19 at 08:45:26:


You asked for a "direct" connection.  I gave you several examples.

A pattern of weather that has been changing over the course of decades is climate.

I gave you that example with empirical evidence.

But again, what the hell do you care?  You'll never believe until your backyard is on fire and the sky directly above your head is red.

Live in ignorance, you'll continue to be happy.

"What, I want to hear WTF exactly caused the end of the Ice Age?"

 There is an awful lot of information about this available, but there is no one factor everyone agrees on.

 "Whose factory and SUV Did THAT?"

 Nobodies.  Why would you even ask that?  The issue as always been, which you might ignore again, is Rate of Change.  

 It's faster.

 That doesn't mean there isn't corruption, doomsday predictions like Jesus, Martial Law, Eradication of all personally owned firearms, Aliens behind comets, Death Panels killing your Grandma, etc. pick any topic those will exist.

 Still the Rate of Change is faster than it has been in the past, unless of course you just want to deny any information people put forth that you either don't care about or won't accept because the numbers don't match your beliefs.