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Who's To Blame?
08/14/19 at 16:03:01
 
You know who.....

'No Blame?' ABC News finds 36 cases invoking 'Trump' in connection with violence, threats, alleged assaults.

President Donald Trump has repeatedly refused to accept any responsibility for inciting violence in American communities, dismissing critics who have pointed to his rhetoric as a potential source of inspiration for some citizens acting on even long-held beliefs of bigotry and hate.

"I think my rhetoric brings people together," he said last week, four days after a 21-year-old allegedly posted an anti-immigrant screed online and then allegedly opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, killing 22 and injuring dozens of others.

But a nationwide review conducted by ABC News has identified at least 36 criminal cases where Trump was invoked in direct connection with violent acts, threats of violence or allegations of assault.

In nine cases, perpetrators hailed Trump in the midst or immediate aftermath of physically attacking innocent victims. In another 10 cases, perpetrators cheered or defended Trump while taunting or threatening others. And in another 10 cases, Trump and his rhetoric were cited in court to explain a defendant's violent or threatening behavior.

Seven cases involved violent or threatening acts perpetrated in defiance of Trump, with many of them targeting Trump's allies in Congress. But the vast majority of the cases -- 29 of the 36 -- reflect someone echoing presidential rhetoric, not protesting it.

ABC News could not find a single criminal case filed in federal or state court where an act of violence or threat was made in the name of President Barack Obama or President George W. Bush.

The 36 cases identified by ABC News are remarkable in that a link to the president is captured in court documents and police statements, under the penalty of perjury or contempt.

In many cases of assault or threat, charges are never filed, perpetrators are never identified or the incident is never even reported to authorities. And most criminal acts committed by Trump supporters or his detractors have nothing to do with the president. But in 36 cases, court records and police reports indicated some sort of link.

The perpetrators and suspects identified in the 36 cases are mostly white men -- as young as teenagers and as old as 75 -- while the victims largely represent an array of minority groups -- African-Americans, Latinos, Muslims and gay men.

Federal law enforcement authorities have privately told ABC News they worry that -- even with Trump's public denunciations of violence -- Trump's style could inspire violence-prone individuals to take action against minorities or others they perceive to be against the president's agenda.

"Any public figure could have the effect of inspiring people," FBI Director Chris Wray told a Senate panel in July. "But remember that the people who commit hate fueled violence are not logical, rational people."

While asserting that "fake" media coverage is exacerbating divisions in the country, Trump has noted that "a fan" of Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders opened fire on Republican lawmakers playing baseball in a Washington suburb two years ago. "Nobody puts ... 'Bernie Sanders' in the headline with the maniac," Trump said last year.

And, last week, Trump similarly insisted that the man who fatally shot nine people in Dayton, Ohio, three days earlier "supported" Sanders and other liberal causes.

But there's no indication either of those shooters mentioned Sanders while launching their attacks, and no charges were ever filed because they were both fatally shot during their assaults.

In identifying the 36 Trump-related cases, ABC News excluded incidents of vandalism. ABC News also excluded several cases of violence -- from attacks on anti-Trump protesters at Trump rallies to certain assaults on people wearing "Make America Great Again" hats -- that did not establish explicit ties to Trump.

In conducting its review, ABC News did find several cases where pro-Trump defendants were charged with targeting minorities, or where speculation online suggested the defendants were motivated by Trump, but in those cases ABC News found no police records, court proceedings or other direct evidence presenting a definitive link to the president. So those cases were also excluded in the ABC News tally.

Nevertheless, last year Trump said he deserves "no blame" for what he called the "hatred" seemingly coursing through parts of the country. And he told reporters that he's "committed to doing everything" in his power to not let political violence "take root in America."

The White House did not respond to a request seeking comment for this report.



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Re: Who's To Blame?
Reply #1 - 08/14/19 at 16:20:38
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/14/19 at 16:03:01:
"I think my rhetoric brings people together," he said last week,

White supremacists are linking arms, singing "Trump ueber alles" all over America.
It's a beautiful thing...
...and some,... are very good people...
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Reply #2 - 08/15/19 at 07:54:04
 

even with Trump’s public denunciations of violence -- Trump's style could inspire violence-prone individuals to take action


Well then AOC, and B.S. and C.U, and E.W, and N.P. and R.M. and many, many, MANY, others;
“Who publicly support the flood of Illegal’s receiving free food, housing, healthcare, cash spending money, and being released into the general populous, (never to return again, and to VOTE, with NO, proof, of Citizenship, and be allowed to commit all sorts of crimes, because they are protected by 'sanctuary cites/States), most certainly  could inspire individuals to take action to support those goals”

So if Trump is responsible for something.
Why not the UL, FDS's ?????????

Oh Yea, Just another case of TDS !



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Reply #3 - 08/15/19 at 08:08:55
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/15/19 at 07:54:04:

even with Trump’s public denunciations of violence -- Trump's style could inspire violence-prone individuals to take action


Well then AOC, and B.S. and C.U, and E.W, and N.P. and R.M. and many, many, MANY, others;
“Who publicly support the flood of Illegal’s receiving free food, housing, healthcare, cash spending money, and being released into the general populous, (never to return again, and to VOTE, with NO, proof, of Citizenship, and be allowed to commit all sorts of crimes, because they are protected by 'sanctuary cites/States), most certainly  could inspire individuals to take action to support those goals”

So if Trump is responsible for something.
Why not the UL, FDS's ?????????

Oh Yea, Just another case of TDS !




A swing and a miss..... and that'll retire the side.....
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Reply #4 - 08/15/19 at 08:25:17
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/15/19 at 07:54:04:
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“Who publicly support the flood of Illegal’s receiving free food, housing, healthcare, cash spending money, and being released into the general populous, (never to return again, and to VOTE, with NO, proof, of Citizenship, and be allowed to commit all sorts of crimes, because they are protected by 'sanctuary cites/States), most certainly  could inspire individuals to take action to support those goals”


I'd ask where you get this stuff, but it's clear you just make it up.
Very Trumpian... Grin
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Reply #5 - 08/15/19 at 08:27:36
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/15/19 at 08:08:55:
A swing and a miss

Thanks for using that phrase, because someone is not, 'LOCK STEP' with Your view.

I will use that phrase,
the next time you give a opinion on a subject.
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Re: Who's To Blame?
Reply #6 - 08/15/19 at 08:31:11
 
Serowbot wrote on 08/15/19 at 08:25:17:
I'd ask where you get this stuff, but it's clear you just make it up.

Here is a tt for ya.
'Prove that is not happening'

And:
'Look it up for yourself, or are you to lazy'.
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Re: Who's To Blame?
Reply #7 - 08/15/19 at 08:32:08
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/15/19 at 08:27:36:
T And T Garage wrote on 08/15/19 at 08:08:55:
A swing and a miss

Thanks for using that phrase, because someone is not, 'LOCK STEP' with Your view.

I will use that phrase,
the next time you give a opinion on a subject.



Please, feel free to use it as much as you want.

I mean, it's not like you have any original thoughts anyway, right?

Grin
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