Interesting comment I ran accost when I reviewed some different ammo.

“I love how you Americans debate the calibre's for defense purposes,
as an unfree Brit,  we can’t own guns for defense.
We have to use stern words if under attack.
.....but not too stern, don't want to upset the attacker!! "

Serowbot wrote on 08/11/19 at 08:34:27:

And you are 160 times more likely to killed by a gun in the US...    26 Gun murders in England   11,004 in US Annually

Gosh, didn't know that if someone KILLED someone,
with a Knife, Club, Hands, or Malpractice,
they were LESS dead,
than killed with a gun.

Daaa, of course less by guns in the UK
The UK 'subjects', have had their freedom,
Taken AWAY !