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08/09/19 at 08:32:59
 
Today is a big day in St Louis and for leftist across the country.

It's the day the big lie of Hands Up; Don't Shoot started 5 years ago.

We've already been treated to nauseating garbage from our local media.

You'd think f'ing Gandhi was killed 5 years ago......   The revisionist history going on is astounding to watch.

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Reply #1 - 08/09/19 at 08:35:50
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/09/19 at 08:32:59:
Today is a big day in St Louis and for leftist across the country.

It's the day the big lie of Hands Up; Don't Shoot started 5 years ago.

We've already been treated to nauseating garbage from our local media.

You'd think f'ing Gandhi was killed 5 years ago......   The revisionist history going on is astounding to watch.




Aww..  sorry that the death of unarmed African Americans cramps your style.

Gee your life's tough, mark....
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Reply #2 - 08/09/19 at 08:46:16
 
'the death of unarmed African Americans'

Has nothing to do with that.
Has everything to do with the LIE,
a person was shot in the back while his  'hand were up'.

Expected deflection and spin.

What is the 'H' word ?

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #3 - 08/09/19 at 08:52:02
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/09/19 at 08:46:16:
'the death of unarmed African Americans'

Has nothing to do with that.
Has everything to do with the LIE,
a person was shot in the back while his  'hand were up'.

Expected deflection and spin.

What is the 'H' word ?


LOL - you keep asking what that "H" word is... and now I see that you actually don't know what it is or what it means...   Grin

Let put it to you this way, mn - the "Hands up don't shoot" protest is about African Americans getting shot by police even when they are unarmed and pose no threat to heavily armed, poorly trained police officers.

There is no hypocrisy (if that's the h-word you're talking about).

It's fact that they are treated with much higher force than white suspects.


There, you've been educated.  You're welcome.
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Reply #4 - 08/09/19 at 09:10:26
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/09/19 at 08:52:02:
African Americans getting shot by police even when they are unarmed and pose no threat  

So in your book, 'pose no threat', is:
Beating on someone forcefully.
Trying to take their gun.
Reaching for something, just after they stated, 'I have a Gun'.
Running at someone with a extended knife.

ONLY, if they have a certain color skin.

Gee, that sure sounds, Racist to me,
(and BILLIONS of others)

Hea, hows that Socialism going for ya ?

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #5 - 08/09/19 at 09:15:08
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/09/19 at 09:10:26:
T And T Garage wrote on 08/09/19 at 08:52:02:
African Americans getting shot by police even when they are unarmed and pose no threat  

So in your book, 'pose no threat', is:
Beating on someone forcefully.
Trying to take their gun.
Reaching for something, just after they stated, 'I have a Gun'.
Running at someone with a extended knife.

ONLY, if they have a certain color skin.

Gee, that sure sounds, Racist to me,
(and BILLIONS of others)

Hea, hows that Socialism going for ya ? - Again, it's going great (do you have a comprehension problem?)



I won't think for a femtosecond that you will ever understand.  To a degree, I won't either.  But I do know this - African Americans, when being confronted by police are dealt with deadly force far more often than necessary or when compared to whites.
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Reply #6 - 08/09/19 at 09:31:34
 
won't think for a femtosecond that you will ever understand.  To a degree, I won't either.  But I do know this - African Americans, when being confronted by police are dealt with deadly force far more often than necessary or when compared to whites.


Is that true?
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Reply #7 - 08/09/19 at 09:37:40
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/09/19 at 09:31:34:
won't think for a femtosecond that you will ever understand.  To a degree, I won't either.  But I do know this - African Americans, when being confronted by police are dealt with deadly force far more often than necessary or when compared to whites.


Is that true?



Yes.
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Reply #8 - 08/09/19 at 09:39:50
 
Just Googled femtosecond...  

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Reply #9 - 08/09/19 at 09:45:34
 
So... which guy was selling loose cigarettes and which one killed over 20 people in El Paso?


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Reply #10 - 08/09/19 at 09:53:34
 
"Is that true?"

 Statistically it is when comparing to whites.  I'm not sure there is a way, at this time, to evaluate accurately "more than necessary".

 This will change once an independent contractor is allowed to upload body-cam footage and present it to multiple panels for review.
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Reply #11 - 08/09/19 at 10:06:35
 
I remember a Washington Post article that said otherwise.

But why would body cam footage change it?
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Reply #12 - 08/09/19 at 10:29:19
 
"But why would body cam footage change it?"

 Empirical evidence.  No more witness statements, victim or officer statements.  The footage presents an actual event measurable in real time with actual not "recalled" dialogue.  

 Of course "necessary" will still be up for debate so each event would require multiple evaluations from diverse and educated panels.

 For instance it would be easy to evaluate how necessary shooting a suspect is if the footage clearly shows the suspect kneeling with his hands up saying "I give up" followed with 6 shots to the head and body.

 No matter how many officer statements say he was running at the officer the camera footage with the exception of heavily edited and CGI modification would provide more accurate evidence.

 It would be more difficult to establish how "necessary" a shooting is if a suspect is standing, has said he has a gun and is not raising his hands.  However no amount of witness testimony that the suspect was kneeling down pleading for his life would impact a proper evaluation.
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Reply #13 - 08/09/19 at 12:17:54
 
T And T Garage wrote on 08/09/19 at 09:45:34:
So... which guy was selling loose cigarettes and which one killed over 20 people in El Paso?

Perhaps you can answer some questions, so their is more information, so their is no, spin/fear, assumptions made.

Which one was running away ?
Which one was mentally Ill, and just stood their ?


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Reply #14 - 08/09/19 at 13:58:43
 
MnSpring wrote on 08/09/19 at 12:17:54:
T And T Garage wrote on 08/09/19 at 09:45:34:
So... which guy was selling loose cigarettes and which one killed over 20 people in El Paso?

Perhaps you can answer some questions, so their is more information, so their is no, spin/fear, assumptions made.

Which one was running away ?
Which one was mentally Ill, and just stood their ?






LOL - "their", "there" and "they're".... still don't get it, huh?

By the way, genius, the guy selling cigarettes, was way too fat to run.  They just had to tackle him to feel like big men.

Go watch the footage and then educate yourself on the proper use of "their", "there" and "they're" - it makes you look stupid.
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