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Reply #30 - 08/12/19 at 11:36:50
 
"Simply, because the 2nd, keeps the first, which keeps the 4th, (and all the rest)
Because the 1st, allows a person to say:
"Hea, that Policeman/woman, broke into my house and took my money
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 So the Government is maintaining the 1st Amendment exclusively because if they don't people will use personal firearms to maintain the 1st?

 I'm not sure how that works.  I guess the logic is if all national ISP's are shut down and the power is cut they will just march to DC with their shotguns, AKs and ARs kill some Congressmen and the power will just come back on.
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Reply #31 - 08/12/19 at 12:06:29
 
Eegore wrote on 08/12/19 at 11:36:50:
 So the Government is maintaining the 1st Amendment

Did you mean to say:
"So the People are maintaining the 1st Amendment "
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Reply #32 - 08/12/19 at 13:29:49
 
So that's why countries without guns don't have a free press... Roll Eyes
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Reply #33 - 08/12/19 at 13:37:53
 

"Did you mean to say:
"So the People are maintaining the 1st Amendment ""


 No.  You said that.

 I am saying the Government is maintaining, as in adhering to, keeping up with, abiding by, procuring resources to continue, keeping, doing.

 They are doing that because citizens have personal firearms?
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Reply #34 - 08/12/19 at 14:51:57
 
Eegore wrote on 08/12/19 at 13:37:53:
 I am saying the Government is maintaining, ... ... ... ... ...

In this Nation, the Government IS the People/Citizens.
I believe that was the Goal, for the last 244 years, in this Country.

The Government, in many other countries, control their,'subjects'.

That original goal which has lasted 244 years,
and currently is still this Countries goal,
could well change, with a Socialist Government in charge.

And the more people that are,
not taught,  (on purpose),
that the Citizens of the US, ARE the government.
The easier this Nation will turn totally Socialistic.


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Reply #35 - 08/12/19 at 15:24:49
 
 I'm familiar with how and what our Government is.  

 I am willing to admit however that the average citizen no longer has the same degree of control as they did 244 years ago.  You know, before nuclear warheads, biological weaponry, global trade through electronic transfer.

 Maybe this will help:  

 I don't think the Government, made of elected officials representing the People of the US, a process in place for 244 years, is maintaining, adhering to, conduct itself to the procurement of, and implementing the 1st amendment because the non-elected US Citizen has privately owned unregistered firearms and ammunition conducive to the effective use of said personal firearms.
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Reply #36 - 08/12/19 at 15:27:01
 
And you won't be able to see how they are connected until it's too late.
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Reply #37 - 08/12/19 at 15:34:18
 
Eegore wrote on 08/12/19 at 15:24:49:
 I'm familiar with how and what our Government is.  

 I am willing to admit however that the average citizen no longer has the same degree of control as they did 244 years ago.  You know, before nuclear warheads, biological weaponry, global trade through electronic transfer.

 Maybe this will help:  

 I don't think the Government, made of elected officials representing the People of the US, a process in place for 244 years, is maintaining, adhering to, conduct itself to the procurement of, and implementing the 1st amendment because the non-elected US Citizen has privately owned unregistered firearms and ammunition conducive to the effective use of said personal firearms.



Playing off what I highlighted in blue above (sorry, it's a tangent);

The typical citizen in the US today, has virtually no voice except at the voting booth.  However, that's being manipulated by barrages false/misleading ads paid for by PACs.

Very few (all of which are Democratic Socialists) don't accept PAC money/dark money.

If we were to get more of that mentality in Congress, things would change for the better.  I'm not just saying democrats either.  Republicans should adopt that model as well.

Look to the Ford/Carter election and how those campaigns were financed.
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