Latest 19 dead,.. 40 injured.
Geez,.. this is a bad one.

T And T Garage wrote on 08/03/19 at 15:48:24:

That is part of the price of freedom.

You and Bot both own guns, why haven't you turned them in or destroy them?

I have been to that mall on several occasions.  I lived in that part of the world for several years; hence, my first hand knowledge of the border.  That is for another thread though...

Best regards,

 It wasn't a mall.

 It wasn't a gun free zone.

I read what this guy left behind, his reasoning for doing this. Much like the other manifestos, it has elements of truth linked together with inaccuracies and massive over-generalized talking points from both sides of the political spectrum. He had three main themes. First and foremost was what the changing cultural makeup of the country, Texas in particular. Second was the infestation of corporate influence over the political world and third was the pending doom to the environment of the earth due to mankind.

Rational people, which includes everyone on here, are able to balance the over the top hyperbole we hear everyday with the reality of the world in front of us. This guy (and now perhaps the Dayton shooter) could not.

I think this other news I heard is basically is the same thing only manifested differently.  I heard yesterday about the Air Force and Marines attempting to address high suicide rates. I read that suicide is 2nd leading cause of death for  millennials behind accidents.

Assuming for a second suicide rates have climbed the past couple of decades and this is not simply a result of more honest and accurate data collection, seems to me there's a common link between these young mass shooters and young suicides.

Is it a feeling of hopelessness? That everyone else is able to enjoy life, that everyone else has it better, that everyone else has a better job, prettier wife, more sex, more money, everyone else just has it better.

Is our over sensitivity towards ensuring a safe, happy and prosperous childhood the past couple of generations delayed the pains of reality from the adolescent years into adulthood where some are less able  to deal with disappointment and rejection in a healthy manner?

[quote author=437176676071665975667F140 link=1564872504/0#7 date=1564920674]I read what this guy left behind, his reasoning for  and third was the pending doom to the environment of the earth due to mankind.

Oh Mark, why is any one upset? he was just doing what Klanned Parent hood has been doing for years,  getting rid of unwanted people.




'If they would rather die,'  'they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.  Charles Dickens' 1843

Ed L. wrote on 08/04/19 at 06:31:54:


Sadly Ed L
this is America now, but the seeds of the problem were planted around the time Woodstock.
"love the one you're with."
"Don't worry about tomorrow, live for today."
"tune in turn on and drop out."

Free love doesn't work, true  love is binding. Mothers and fathers back in their day would give their lives for their kids (binding) . Now kids don't know their father, they don't know what love is. The world is just for me.

I heard a conversation outside a abortion clinic yesterday.  A girl going into the clinic yelled  
"I am here to kill my baby, and I am glad."  

When life is so unloved, is it any wonder people turn to violence?

Matchless G11 wrote on 08/04/19 at 07:22:23:

Most other civilized countries have legal abortion,... but not the shootings.
There is no correlation between legal abortion and shootings.

America has two unique features... guns... and shootings.

Oh yeah,.. and gun nuts that will tie themselves into a pretzel to avoid that reality.