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Re: When news services expose their true natures .
Reply #15 - 07/30/19 at 16:00:55
 
"Back to the OP; regardless, how would the spent brass get ahead of the muzzle of the barrel?"

 This happens consistently with M-4s.  I have posted here about the amount of ammunition I barrel and re-use at official ranges numbering in the hundreds of thousands.  I have seen plenty of times shells eject slightly forward as well as bounce all over the place.  My group will fire over 6000 rounds this month alone.

 This seems like an awful lot of work to photoshop an image for gun control advocates.  

 The gallery is posted on DVIDS which is if I recall correctly overseen by CENTCOM, so not by any means an anti-gun or gun regulation media.  What would be the advantage of photoshopping a shell casing in front of a barrel, and poorly angled for that matter?

 Why select this location?

 Why select a media that is under such tight scrutiny?

 Why would an Airman 1st Class, the photographer think that casings ejected from guns?
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Reply #16 - 07/30/19 at 16:02:03
 

"Brass has no apparent tempering discoloration, which is very obvious on nearly all 5.56 NATO. Even in photos where the brass is much blurrier than in this photo."

 I'd be interested in seeing those.
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Reply #17 - 07/30/19 at 17:01:50
 
Eegore wrote on 07/30/19 at 16:00:55:
 This happens consistently with M-4s.  I have posted here about the amount of ammunition I barrel and re-use at official ranges numbering in the hundreds of thousands.  I have seen plenty of times shells eject slightly forward as well as bounce all over the place.  My group will fire over 6000 rounds this month alone.
 


I have little experience with the ar platform....

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Re: When news services expose their true natures .
Reply #18 - 07/30/19 at 19:27:53
 

OK, so the laser and the flashlight portions are offset around the front sight, so that part at least makes sense now.

The fired case would have had to go up high into the air, and then drop back down to be in line with the bore (properly oriented) for this shot to be a real "accident" but the lack of gas at the muzzle and at the action tends to make this dubious as well.

The brownish discoloration at the case neck commonly seen is from annealing of the neck area at the manufacturing plant, not from firing.   Firing "blueish purplish" discolorations like in the M-1 carbine happen from the use of a WHOLE LOT of hot fast powders, and this doesn't happen for very much in the M-4.    However, some carbon discoloration of cases from chamber release blow by (in direct gas actuated guns) does happen.

Still, quite the controversy for a simple picture of a guy shooting a M4 don't you think ????

I tend to vote photo shopped doctored, personally ......
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Reply #19 - 07/31/19 at 05:01:21
 
You can lead a horse to water......
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Reply #20 - 07/31/19 at 08:43:02
 
Maybe, the publisher P-shopped to get publicity.
Look how long we've been talking about it... Grin

The everytown.org photo might be intentional too.
They're intended audience may not be familiar with guns, and showing the full cartridge would be more recognizable to them.

The Discovery Channel animation is truly unforgivable.  
I can't believe that one is real.  
Like showing a Saturn 5 rocket with all the stages still in tact orbiting the moon....  Grin
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Reply #21 - 07/31/19 at 10:42:22
 
 I think taking the effort to Photoshop this type of image and post it in the location it was is stranger than a photo being taken like this.  Does this Airman really want an investigation?

 For instance this website has been around for decades and while it now includes staged images the majority for years was simply amazingly timed, accidental images.

https://www.perfectlytimedphotos.com/


 Why select this group of people, on Federal property and choose to supply an altered image on a CENTCOM overseen website when there are literally millions of other alternatives within this person's grasp?

 If this was posted in a higher traffic site, sent to other ones etc. then sure the motive would be suspect.

 Why would an Airman 1st Class think a casing ejects from a barrel?
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Reply #22 - 07/31/19 at 17:28:44
 
In 1874, Billy Dixon shot a .50-90 Sharp’s, at a distance of 1,538 Yards, 7/8 of a mile.
And saved 28 people, from 300 (+/-) Comanche, Kiowa and Southern Cheyenne Indians.
Because he killed a big chief.

Carlos Hathcock, a sniper in Vietnam, his longest shot was 2,500 yards (1.42 miles).
He also killed another sniper by shooting at a glint of light in the jungle foliage.
When he approached the fallen enemy he noticed that the bullet had passed through the scope,
and entered into the enemy sniper’s eye.

Those have been replicated !

Doubt very much that a .223 case, from a AR type firearm,
could at any point in it’s travels, end up exactly in front of the bore,
without ANY opening, or part opening, or gas, coming from the port of the gun,
with out any discoloration on the casing, or any flash or powder from the barrel.

But hey, let the MythBusters do it
LOLOLOLLOLOLOLO

As far as the photo of a .223 Bullet,
in it’s brass casing, going down the barrel.
Very typical of the UL, FDS’s telling lies,
to convince people to BAN GUNS.
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Re: When news services expose their true natures .
Reply #23 - 07/31/19 at 18:20:46
 
MnSpring wrote on 07/31/19 at 17:28:44:
As far as the photo of a .223 Bullet,
in it’s brass casing, going down the barrel.
Very typical of the UL, FDS’s telling lies,
to convince people to BAN GUNS.

Do you really think that was a "lie"?...
I would call it an incorrect visualization,... but not a lie.
There was no intention to deceive. To what end?...
I wouldn't say it's typical either.  

I think you've got a little UL, FDS, derangement syndrome going on.

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