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They said it couldn't be done - S&S carb install
07/20/19 at 19:00:47
 
I have pretty much finished up with installation and initial tuning of the S&S Super E carburetor.  It’s a true 40mm conventional carburetor and not nearly as sophisticated as the stock 35.5 mm constant velocity Mikuni.  But I like to be different, and I also am a big fan of WOT performance.  After flow testing carburetors it was obvious to me that the S&S had the potential to beat the socks off the stocker at WOT performance.  It didn’t disappoint me.
 
The S&S dropped the second-gear 4K to 7K time by .17 seconds.  I’m very satisfied with that.  It wouldn’t surprise me if there’s more in it.  It’s very rich right now and I suspect I might be able to improve the acceleration a bit if I go down a couple of sizes on the main jet.

It’s a thirty-year-old carburetor.  Here’s a shot of the installation.  I think it looks pretty good.
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Re: They said it couldn't be done - S&S carb insta
Reply #1 - 07/20/19 at 19:05:13
 
This link will take you to a YouTube vid of the finished install.

https://youtu.be/pe1sGabmchE



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Reply #2 - 07/20/19 at 19:06:57
 
This link will take you to a YouTube vid of initial operation in my garage.

https://youtu.be/rl1_LF7ujeI

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Reply #3 - 07/20/19 at 19:08:49
 
This link will take you to a vid of some WOT ops in 2nd & 3rd gear.

https://youtu.be/8UXTVIxABIc

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Reply #4 - 07/20/19 at 19:12:02
 
If you're wondering about the fun factor, this link takes you to a vid of running through the gears and granny shiftin.  As you can see, it's a fun scoot to play on.

https://youtu.be/LKgN6kqoLZA
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Reply #5 - 07/20/19 at 19:15:24
 
I don't think drivability is an issue.  Here's a vid of some 5th gear roll-ons.

https://youtu.be/WfYjXAOspY8
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Reply #6 - 07/20/19 at 19:16:36
 
Some steady state cruizin.

https://youtu.be/J591VU3lYBs
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Reply #7 - 07/20/19 at 19:18:13
 
And some surface street slow-speed ops.

https://youtu.be/cu_48m8-cMc
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Reply #8 - 07/20/19 at 19:21:49
 
It runs pretty good but still has a couple of hiccups.  At very low throttle openings between 3 and 4 thousand rpm it tends to go way rich, to the point of stumbling.  Open the throttle and the stumble goes away completely.  The idle is also a bit rough.  Other than that, it runs very well for a first attempt.
 
When I first installed the carb, I had it set up with a 28 Intermediate Jet (IJ), a 62 Main jet (MJ), and a 100 Air Bleed (AB).  It’s an old carb that was previously modified for a ThunderJet, so it has an adjustable AB (utilizes Mikuni MJ for AB).  That didn’t run well at all.  It had a terrible stumble any time you tried to accelerate, but at WOT it ran fine.  It looked like the IJ and MJ had too much overlap so I started increasing the AB.  It immediately got better and continued to improve as I kept throwing in larger ABs.  When I got up to about a 150 it stopped improving.  I’m thinkin I need a new hole or two in the emulsion tube.  Anybody out there know anything about emulsion tube mods?

I think I can clean up the rough idle by drilling a small hole in the throttle plate (an old hot rodder trick used on engines with low idle vacuum).  Right now, I think the throttle plate is open too much and overlaps the transfer ports at idle.
 
Things are lookin up.

Sorry for not placing multiple hyperlinks in one post, I just couldn't get it to stick.
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Reply #9 - 07/20/19 at 22:51:18
 
Wow! Really nice job and a beautiful bike. It looks brand new!

Two questions: What is the insulator spacer made of and what is the small meter up to the right beside the tachometer?
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Reply #10 - 07/21/19 at 15:02:33
 
Kamelryttarn, thanks for the kudos.

The insulator is made from a phenolic material.  S&S makes them in two thicknesses, 1/4" and 3/8".  S&S part numbers 16-0491 & 16-0497.

The small meter to the right of the tachometer is an oil pressure gage, 0-15 psi, liquid filled.  I have it tapped in to the head cover.  It is a Marshall part number LB00015.  You can view the details of the install here.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1559853083
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