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pacoacevess YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11	2nd Gear transmission issue 07/01/19 at 14:22:24 Anybody who has the same problem I have?, all gears works great but 2nd gear when I release the clutch lever on my savage loose power and a strange noise came from motor, I already change the clutch kit but the issue is still, any idea on how to solve it??
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: 2nd Gear transmission issue Reply #1 - 07/01/19 at 18:51:43 What speed are you shifting at ? If it's to soon the bike will protest.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 2nd Gear transmission issue Reply #2 - 07/01/19 at 20:44:10 Noise ClunkLunkLunk? How many miles on it? Don't change into second under twenty MPH. If it's uphill, higher, downhill, meh, lower is okay, But don't try to accelerate hard at those speeds.
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pacoacevess YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11	Re: 2nd Gear transmission issue Reply #3 - 07/02/19 at 06:37:20 It is a 86 savage not sure how many milles due bad odomenter(but should have a lot), of course I sequence properlly from 1rst to 4 gear, but in 2nd fails and get that noise (internal mesh noise) normally it does at uphill not downhill probably I would need to disasembly complete engine to get transmision mesh?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 2nd Gear transmission issue Reply #4 - 07/02/19 at 07:20:58 Of course you're doing it right And you just quite possibly are Doing it right But How FAST are you going when you shift into Second?
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pacoacevess YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11	Re: 2nd Gear transmission issue Reply #5 - 07/02/19 at 07:30:43 I think may be 10MPH
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 2nd Gear transmission issue Reply #6 - 07/02/19 at 07:38:41 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/01/19 at 20:44:10: Noise ClunkLunkLunk? How many miles on it? Don't change into second under twenty MPH. If it's uphill, higher, downhill, meh, lower is okay, But don't try to accelerate hard at those speeds. Well, Try going Faster,
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: 2nd Gear transmission issue Reply #7 - 07/02/19 at 09:16:19 Your "dogging "the motor ,you shouldn't be shifting until you hit a LEAST , 25-30mph . If you shift into 4th below 40mph the bike will react the same way ,it's telling you, to drop to a lower gear.
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Fast 650 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 405 Valrico, FL Gender:	Re: 2nd Gear transmission issue Reply #8 - 07/02/19 at 09:24:29 pacoacevess wrote on 07/02/19 at 07:30:43: I think may be 10MPH You are shifting into 2nd gear waaay too soon at 10 mph. Try shifting 1st to 2nd at about 20mph, 2nd to 3rd at about 30 to 35 mph, 3rd to 4th around 45 mph, and 4th to 5th around 50 to 55 mph. The bike will be much happier at those speeds.
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: 2nd Gear transmission issue Reply #9 - 07/02/19 at 09:30:58 He's got a 4 speed 86 so those speeds may even need to be a bit higher.
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18105 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: 2nd Gear transmission issue Reply #10 - 07/02/19 at 09:34:46 Our minimal HP doesn't seem to have enough power to break or wear out a transmission.....the problem very likely is not going to require any work "inside" the engine cases.
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Fast 650 Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 405 Valrico, FL Gender:	Re: 2nd Gear transmission issue Reply #11 - 07/02/19 at 11:11:41 batman wrote on 07/02/19 at 09:30:58: He's got a 4 speed 86 so those speeds may even need to be a bit higher. I missed that part somehow. There used to be a mph/rpm chart for the 4 speed and 5 speed here but it was hosted on another site and the link was broken some time ago. Broken link = data lost forever.
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Re: 2nd Gear transmission issue
Reply #12 - 07/02/19 at 13:19:28

Thanks for all your comments, my issue is not the normal dogging when you force the engine aplying an upper gear, my problem is only on the 2nd gear and loose completelly power when I release the clutch alse there is a very bad mesh noise inside the engine, now Im trying to figure which internal mesh will be causing this problem, and I'm reviewing that I will need to remove completelly the engine to reach all the trans mesh dam :'(

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 2nd Gear transmission issue Reply #13 - 07/02/19 at 14:48:45 Probably be easier to Try a higher speed before you grab wrenches.
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Reply #14 - 07/02/19 at 16:55:15

Im agree seems hard with this engine damage any transmission mesh bit what el Se could be causing this??, by the way some times byke 2nd shift works properlly for a few minutes, head decompressor could Chasing this?

Dave wrote on 07/02/19 at 09:34:46:

Our minimal HP doesn't seem to have enough power to break or wear out a transmission.....the problem very likely is not going to require any work "inside" the engine cases.

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