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06/30/19 at 04:33:58
 
Where is the fascism?  I don’t see any….  I do not dispute right wing ideologies and  racism exist; however, that is not fascism.  In short Wikipedia defines fascism as:

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Where is the dictatorial power, forcible suppression?  Just because Trump is a nationalist, does not mean he implements fascism.  No, people who are citizens of foreign countries do not have rights here.      
Please make an honest effort to address the premise if this thread.

Again, where is the fascism?

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Re: Fascism
Reply #1 - 06/30/19 at 10:57:08
 
Why take the time, just so you can deny it.

Trump has made the rich richer with tax cuts, hired his own family, broken emolument laws, used executive and emergency powers rather than work with Congress, hired staff on foreign enemy payrolls, keeping acting positions to avoid Senate confirmations and investigations, ignored security clearances, tried to fire his own investigators, and tried shut down investigations into himself and his staff and family.  
He runs a hotel right near the White House that caters to foreign dignitaries for God's sake.
Don't you see any of these actions as consolidating power?
Fascism is the consolidating of power.  

I'll leave the rest to someone with more time to waste. Undecided
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Reply #2 - 06/30/19 at 11:02:15
 
I would add that fascism isn't the sole province of the right wing. History offers many fine examples of leftist fascism.
The above definition is flawed. Fascism isn't in my mind constrained to any particular political persuasion, it's universal to any mouth foaming fanatics.

The mention of 20th century Europe clearly indicates the author of that definition is of the revisionist historians trying to distance Nazism from leftist socialism it actually was.

Beware revisionist history. Those who rewrite the past are guilty of wanting to relive it all over again.
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Reply #3 - 06/30/19 at 11:37:08
 
The definition of fascism has broadened over time to basically apply to someone in power that you don't like.

Socialism too,... seeing as any action taken by a government that applies to all citizens is a social action.

Communism is any action taken as group for the benefit of the community.

It's all just labels...
We still know what right and wrong are deep down.  
Ask any 4 year old.
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Reply #4 - 06/30/19 at 11:55:19
 
Honestly I sometimes wonder if anyone born after the end of the Cold War actually knows the difference between right and wrong good or evil. They weren't raised with the constant threat of mutually assured destruction and never had to contemplate such a fate. They haven't really learnt to appreciate life and all that is good about it because they didn't have the looming specter of an evil that cold and calculating enough to end all life on the planet.

Obviously nobody should ever have had to grow up with such circumstances as that. But I think it had a unifying effect on people you don't see anywhere nowadays. It's very weird to think of anything good coming out of the Cold War but looking at today's new species of humanity it makes me wonder....
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Reply #5 - 06/30/19 at 12:20:23
 

 I think the issue is the "enemy" changes and a lot of people expect kids to behave like they did when they were young in what should be considered a completely foreign environment given rapid technological and societal change.

 Kids in school today are not concerned about Russia or North Korea dropping nukes as much as they are about someone shooting up their school, or being assaulted by a family member, or being publicly humiliated in Social Media like Revenge P orn.

 Kids perception of threat is different because the enemy is different and society is different.  One generation feared plague, one feared famine, one feared economic collapse, one feared military invasion, one feared nukes, one feared AIDS, etc. etc.
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Reply #6 - 06/30/19 at 12:33:26
 
Ironically plague and famine may return with a vengeance thanks to overpopulation.
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Reply #7 - 06/30/19 at 12:47:05
 
Hey, all you kids out there,...

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Reply #8 - 06/30/19 at 13:16:27
 
Yeah, and the grown men, too.
I see guys who are actually holding a war of the waist of their jeans, holding them up, so they can walk and not have them just fall down.

Seems like the
I'm so COOL I don't tie my high tops
Fad finally died..

I definitely, most intentionally, stood on a guy's laces in Odessa years ago. He didn't go down, but he looked like he was almost ready to fight. I just shrugged and said, Ohhh, I didn't notice your shoes aren't tied..
He walked away, and the clerk and I had a good laugh...
I'd do it again.
Why do people want to wear pants that fall off or shoes not tied? That's nothing but aggravating..


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Reply #9 - 06/30/19 at 14:36:50
 
These descriptions,
sound JUST like what,
AOC, BS, CU, and the rest of the UL FDS Socialists preach.

authoritarian,
dictatorial power,
forcible suppression of opposition,
strong regimentation of society and of the economy.

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Reply #10 - 06/30/19 at 16:07:48
 
Just look at any of the liberal universities and you'll see all of the above in full effect.

And don't even get me started on campus speech codes...
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Reply #11 - 06/30/19 at 18:30:47
 
Serowbot wrote on 06/30/19 at 11:37:08:
The definition of fascism has broadened over time to basically apply to someone in power that you don't like.


This is part of the point I was trying to make, we don't live in anything that resembles fascism.  The left and Antifa use the term very loosely to justify their harressment, intimidation, and assult on their political opponents.


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/06/sen-ted-cruz-calls-on-federal-law-en...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/06/breaking-new-angle-shows-antifa-thug...

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Reply #12 - 06/30/19 at 19:13:41
 
In their infinite wisdom Antifa has announced that all Heavy Metal is racist and Nazi.  Roll Eyes
So I guess all of the non-white metal bands are also nazi racists?
And what a shame to learn Christian Metal is Nazi racists too.

Black Legion, KKK, Antifa. All the same in my mind. Wearing masks like cowards and committing acts of violence and terrorism only discredits whatever cause you think you're fighting for. Assuming of course violence in and of itself isn't the entire motivation to begin with.
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Reply #13 - 06/30/19 at 19:40:15
 
 Well to be fair "Antifa" is not an organized group.  This is a situation where one Antifa group said something.

 Kind of like saying one church is anti heavy metal so every church in the country is.

 Either way unless they show up in my area I could care less what they say.
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Reply #14 - 06/30/19 at 19:48:19
 
It says this on their website. Google it.
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