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06/04/19 at 05:04:50
 
Walter Mondale?

Not quite as bad, immigrants have turned California blue so there would be no slaughter like before but Biden will get crushed. I don't think he'll end up being the one sacrificed on Trump's table. I've been going with Harris and I'm not quite ready to get off her (see what I did there...) but I'm not as sure as I was.

We've no shortage of lefties on here, I'm wondering what the consensus is on here? But whomever it is, I don't think the Dems want another split within their ranks like Bernie and Hillary. Bernie should have been the one to lose to Trump but the powers that be picked Hillary for a coronation and it backfired. This time the mob is going to charge the convention with pitchforks if the AOC wing doesn't get the loon they want.

Maybe that queer eye for the straight guy Butt will be the one. He's trending upwards a bit. He's a white male but plays for the other team, that might be off kilter enough to appease the loons.
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Reply #1 - 06/04/19 at 06:02:04
 
I think Biden's son, etc......

Will be used and played once the field lessens.

I believe the Bernie-bots have lots of tricks stored up to use against Joe, that will make the fringe BLM folk look like a JV team.

And lots of women who will tell how Joe, Chris, and Teddy sexually harassed them....etc.

Bernie has the house leadership blessings, and backing, as well, AOC will see to it  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

It is going to be real interesting for sure, of the likes we have never seen.

Hell....Joe might challenge Trump as a republican in the primary before its all said and done  Grin Grin Grin Grin

I do predict the highest turn out ever.
Trump will win the popular vote, but lose the EC vote, and we will have a civil war as now EVERYONE will become hypocrites  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #2 - 06/04/19 at 06:12:42
 
Bernie has the house leadership blessings, and backing, as well, AOC will see to it

I don't think Bernie is AOC's pick.

It's also possible AOC will begin to be marginalized by the Party Leadership if she goes to rouge. Pelosi's got a tough job ahead, lotta cats to herd.
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Reply #3 - 06/04/19 at 06:55:20
 
I think no matter who the dems nominate, trump will lose the popular and the electoral vote.

I hope it's Bernie, as I'm contributing to his campaign.  If it's not, I'll vote for whomever they put up (unless trump is primaried, but I don't see that happening).

And for the record, had Bernie been given the nod in '16, he would have won handily over trump.
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Reply #4 - 06/04/19 at 09:57:48
 
T And T Garage wrote on 06/04/19 at 06:55:20:
I think no matter who the dems nominate, trump will lose the popular and the electoral vote.



I thought he was going to be impeached.    Roll Eyes

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Reply #5 - 06/04/19 at 10:09:54
 
pg wrote on 06/04/19 at 09:57:48:
T And T Garage wrote on 06/04/19 at 06:55:20:
I think no matter who the dems nominate, trump will lose the popular and the electoral vote.



I thought he was going to be impeached.    Roll Eyes

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I thought so too.  There's still time, but who knows.

Either way, the voting public is sick of being embarrassed by this buffoon.  Their votes will show it - if he makes it on the ballot.
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Reply #6 - 06/05/19 at 15:21:09
 
Mark, did you see this by Doug Schoen?

Last weekend, 14 Democratic presidential candidates ventured to California’s Democratic Party Convention with the goal of laying the groundwork to lock down a majority of the state’s 475 delegates.

California, the most populous Democratic state, moved up its state primary to early in the 2020 calendar, making it much more pivotal to the nomination process than in previous elections.

However, what struck me most was not the handful of Democratic presidential hopefuls who were in California this weekend but the one who wasn’t.

Former Vice President Joe Biden, the current frontrunner who leads by a significant double-digit margin in nearly every poll, decided to skip the event and instead headlined the Human Rights Campaign’s annual Ohio gala.

To be sure, Biden’s decision to skip the event in California is no surprise. Since entering the race, the former vice president has approached the White House race differently from the 23 other Democratic presidential contenders.        

Since solidifying his position as the clear frontrunner in the race, Biden has been notably selective about his public appearances and has also taken advantage of his status as the frontrunner to focus on swing-states that will be crucial to winning in the general election.

Indeed, Biden’s decision to skip California last weekend is indicative of his strategy – while 14 other Democratic candidates took the stage in a solidly blue state to speak to fellow Democrats, Biden spoke in a swing-state that President Trump won by 8 points in 2016, though was won by Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012.

Put simply, this is the best – and only – strategy for the Biden campaign.

Biden stands out as one of the most moderate candidates in an overwhelmingly progressive Democratic field and has the challenge of appealing to a progressive electorate, many of whom criticize Biden for his middle-of-the-road stances on issues such as health care.

To be sure, as the campaign season progresses, the progressive further left candidates will use Joe Biden’s moderate stances and his reluctance to uncritically embrace a radical agenda as a primary attack point against him.

The few moderate Democrats that did go to California, including former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper and former Maryland Rep. John Delaney, were immediately booed for merely warning that the Democratic Party was moving too far left.

Further, several progressive candidates in California took veiled shots at Biden to the joy of the California crowds.

“Some Democrats in Washington believe the only changes we can get are tweaks and nudges … the time for small ideas is over,” said Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts.

“We cannot go back to the old ways. We have got to go forward with a new and progressive agenda,” said Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, who trails Biden in second-place by a wide double-digit margin in most polls.

Biden rarely, if at all, responds to attacks from other Democratic contenders, and has focused much of his energy on developing a compelling, empathetic, center-left narrative that stands as a persuasive alternative to President Trump’s.

Further, Biden’s solidified status as a frontrunner not only enables him to streamline his focus to the general election but also allows him to focus on high-dollar fundraising, which he clearly appears to be doing successfully.

While the Warren and Sanders campaigns have dismissed high-dollar fundraising on the principle that money in politics is intrinsically evil, there is nothing inherently wrong or foolish with courting high dollar donors – the problem only arises when candidates rely heavily on special interest money, and the two should not be conflated.

Biden’s fundraising has allowed him to spend a considerable amount of money on social media campaigns – so much so that he is outspending President Trump $1.2 million to $900,000.

Although it is early in the campaign season and the first Democratic debate is still weeks away, Biden’s candidacy thus far has been encouraging to me as a moderate Democrat. His inclusive, center-left agenda and clear ability to go toe-to-toe with Donald Trump makes him the strongest Democratic candidate to come out of the gate.

However, only time will tell whether the former vice president has the ability to appeal to enough of the Democratic primary electorate in order to emerge the ultimate victor.


What do you think?
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Reply #7 - 06/06/19 at 06:49:05
 
Biden skipped because it was too big of an audience...

He's going to drop out or he'll slow down campaigning on purpose enough to drop far enough in the polls, he becomes a non-factor. My prediction is he comes up with an excuse and drops out so he at least be asked to comment on events. That way he can claim if he'd be able to stay in, he could have won blah, blah, blah.....
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Reply #8 - 06/06/19 at 07:05:05
 
WOW........that is a prediction I've never heard yet.

I've seen some of Warren speakings, and she comes off a lot better than the reporting of events.
You think she could pull it off?
Some of her ideas seem plausible, and not too off in the fringe, as she appears to think the vote will go through the blue collar folk.
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Reply #9 - 06/06/19 at 07:52:15
 
Biden has zero chance of winning for a lot of reasons. He's a straight white older male who running his hands all over women and young girls which means he's starting off running a race with lead in his shoes. Plus the crap with his son, his previous correct comments about immigration etc....  Nope, he's toast.

Warren; I can see her more than Biden, but I can't see why the Dems would go for her as opposed to Harris. Between the two, Cruella De Harris will eventually get more support. Assuming she doesn't screw things up.

It's really a bit too early to say who eventually comes out on top. I'm  convinced Biden drops out. And I can't see Sanders being a choice over someone like Booker or The Queer Eye or the Straight Guy Butting or whatever his name is. Sanders just looks and sounds like a crazy,  very crabby old man.

There's 20+ Dem candidates announced. It will be fun watching the clusterfxxk they're going to create. Each battling to give away more and more of America's soul.
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Reply #10 - 06/06/19 at 07:59:20
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/06/19 at 07:52:15:
Biden has zero chance of winning for a lot of reasons. He's a straight white older male who running his hands all over women and young girls which means he's starting off running a race with lead in his shoes. Plus the crap with his son, his previous correct comments about immigration etc....  Nope, he's toast.

Warren; I can see her more than Biden, but I can't see why the Dems would go for her as opposed to Harris. Between the two, Cruella De Harris will eventually get more support. Assuming she doesn't screw things up.

It's really a bit too early to say who eventually comes out on top. I'm  convinced Biden drops out. And I can't see Sanders being a choice over someone like Booker or The Queer Eye or the Straight Guy Butting or whatever his name is. Sanders just looks and sounds like a crazy,  very crabby old man.

There's 20+ Dem candidates announced. It will be fun watching the clusterfxxk they're going to create. Each battling to give away more and more of America's soul.


You might bat a thousand mark - lol... I think it's gonna be Bernie all the way.

Guess we'll see.
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Reply #11 - 06/06/19 at 10:33:55
 
WebsterMark wrote on 06/06/19 at 07:52:15:
Biden has zero chance of winning for a lot of reasons. He's a straight white older male who running his hands all over women and young girls which means he's starting off running a race with lead in his shoes. Plus the crap with his son, his previous correct comments about immigration etc....  Nope, he's toast.

Warren; I can see her more than Biden, but I can't see why the Dems would go for her as opposed to Harris. Between the two, Cruella De Harris will eventually get more support. Assuming she doesn't screw things up.

It's really a bit too early to say who eventually comes out on top. I'm  convinced Biden drops out. And I can't see Sanders being a choice over someone like Booker or The Queer Eye or the Straight Guy Butting or whatever his name is. Sanders just looks and sounds like a crazy,  very crabby old man.

There's 20+ Dem candidates announced. It will be fun watching the clusterfxxk they're going to create. Each battling to give away more and more of America's soul.


Mark, I don't see Harris carrying the "rust belt bible thumpers"..... without having to back peddle a great deal, which Trump will tweet about till he rubs the buttons off his phone  Grin

I think Bernie could carry some "old white man votes" as well as some young "want it for free" voters.....

Yeah, its way early, lots can, and will, still happen, which is what I am hoping for, as I am still not getting a tingle down my leg.....yet  Grin
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Reply #12 - 06/06/19 at 10:42:38
 
Mark, I don't see Harris carrying the "rust belt bible thumpers"..... without having to back peddle a great deal, which Trump will tweet about till he rubs the buttons off his phone  She can't which is why any Democrat is going to have a hard time. That's why the push to end run the Constitution.

I think Bernie could carry some "old white man votes" as well as some young "want it for free" voters.....
Yes, I agree, he will pull some. But now that the AOC genie is out of the bottle, there's a lot of those nutjobs who aren't going to be happy with Bernie when a woman & man of color and a queer guy who are saying the same things are running too.

Yeah, its way early, lots can, and will, still happen, which is what I am hoping for, as I am still not getting a tingle down my leg.....yet
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Reply #13 - 06/06/19 at 11:40:37
 
Bernie and a AOC ticket....????

That would prove very interesting, but I think her age might be a legal constraint, but in the end, I think the puppeteers (masters) will pull out some heavy shenanigans to ensure it doesn't happen, even more so than last time Bernie caught a burn....  
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