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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28717 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Is birtherism racist?... Reply #15 - 06/03/19 at 14:06:42 Jared won't stoop so low as to defend birtherism,... unlike some here. What does he know that you don't?...
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Reply #16 - 06/03/19 at 15:18:59

T And T Garage wrote on 06/03/19 at 13:26:41:

pg wrote on 06/03/19 at 13:13:44:

More BS identity politics, that is all the left peddles from under the shade tree. A very significant difference exists between Barry, Ted, and John. The latter two had birth certificates and Barry did not. The precedent had already been set with Barry Goldwater and George Romney.

So you still believe that Obama wasn't born in the US, is that right? Even though he provided his birth certificate?

How it all got started, I do not know. It also doesn’t help that Barry’s brother said he was a fraud a posted a Kenyan birth certificate on Twitter. In October 2008, an NPR article referred to "Kenyan-born” Sen. Barack Obama as well.

Then if he was born in Kenya - where's the proof of that? An article? An estranged brother?

Hey, maybe alex jones knows! Grin

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I did not say he wasn't born in the US, I also did not say he was born in Kenya. I provided a compelling argument that differentiated the citizenship concerns between Barry, Ted, and John.

However, I am stating he did not provide the birth certificate for a reason. I believe he is hiding something particularly ugly in his past. I don't know what it is, and I not going to speculate. A reasonable person would have cleared the air in a timely manner.

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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: Is birtherism racist?... Reply #17 - 06/03/19 at 15:21:49 Serowbot wrote on 06/03/19 at 14:06:42: Jared won't stoop so low as to defend birtherism,... unlike some here. What does he know that you don't?... Enough of the virtue-signaling, loose the argument and proceed to ridcule..... And that is coming from a Russian Truther..... Best regards,
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28717 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Is birtherism racist?... Reply #18 - 06/03/19 at 15:50:19 pg wrote on 06/03/19 at 15:21:49: Enough of the virtue-signaling, loose the argument and proceed to ridcule..... And that is coming from a Russian Truther..... Best regards, I have no idea what you just said... Is it a riddle?...
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Reply #19 - 06/03/19 at 16:23:07

WebsterMark wrote on 06/03/19 at 13:19:20:

He did the same with the Central Park 5,.. even after they were proven innocent.

They were hardy proven innocent. That's like saying OJ was innocent.

no, they were actually exonerated, unlike Trump who just thinks he is...

"In 2002, District Attorney Robert Morgenthau withdrew all charges against the Central Park Five, and their convictions were vacated."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/back-1989-central-park-jogger-rape-case-led/story?i...

"The reputations of the “Central Park Five” were restored when, in June of 2002, a convicted murderer and serial rapist named Matias Reyes — who was then serving a life sentence — admitted it was he who’d attacked Meili. His DNA was subsequently matched to genetic material recovered from the scene. After their convictions were formally vacated, the five Central Park men filed a civil suit against the city, which settled in 2014 for a reported $41 million."

https://people.com/crime/the-central-park-five-where-they-are-now/?slide=7078...

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13188 Gender:	Re: Is birtherism racist?... Reply #20 - 06/03/19 at 16:39:19 So Mueller says there was no collusion yet you say ....? There's about a million times more evidence they were guilty than Trump but whatever.....
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Reply #21 - 06/03/19 at 16:56:24

pg wrote on 06/03/19 at 15:18:59:

T And T Garage wrote on 06/03/19 at 13:26:41:

pg wrote on 06/03/19 at 13:13:44:

More BS identity politics, that is all the left peddles from under the shade tree. A very significant difference exists between Barry, Ted, and John. The latter two had birth certificates and Barry did not. The precedent had already been set with Barry Goldwater and George Romney.

So you still believe that Obama wasn't born in the US, is that right? Even though he provided his birth certificate?

How it all got started, I do not know. It also doesn’t help that Barry’s brother said he was a fraud a posted a Kenyan birth certificate on Twitter. In October 2008, an NPR article referred to "Kenyan-born” Sen. Barack Obama as well.

Then if he was born in Kenya - where's the proof of that? An article? An estranged brother?

Hey, maybe alex jones knows! Grin

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I did not say he wasn't born in the US, I also did not say he was born in Kenya. I provided a compelling argument that differentiated the citizenship concerns between Barry, Ted, and John.

However, I am stating he did not provide the birth certificate for a reason. I believe he is hiding something particularly ugly in his past. I don't know what it is, and I not going to speculate. A reasonable person would have cleared the air in a timely manner.

The only problem with your statement is that he did provide a birth certificate. So....

And keep it real pro golfer, you know the only reason he was questioned was the color of his skin and his name.

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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: Is birtherism racist?... Reply #22 - 06/03/19 at 17:18:00 T And T Garage wrote on 06/03/19 at 16:56:24: you know the only reason he was questioned was the color of his skin and his name. Sounds like an opinion to me, can you substantiate that statement? Best regards,
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Reply #23 - 06/04/19 at 06:42:17

pg wrote on 06/03/19 at 17:18:00:

T And T Garage wrote on 06/03/19 at 16:56:24:

you know the only reason he was questioned was the color of his skin and his name.

Sounds like an opinion to me, can you substantiate that statement?

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No, it's not an opinion - there's no need to substantiate. Just like there's no reason to substantiate that summer on the Equator is hot.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28717 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Is birtherism racist?... Reply #24 - 06/04/19 at 08:44:35 WebsterMark wrote on 06/03/19 at 16:39:19: So Mueller says there was no collusion yet you say ....? There's about a million times more evidence they were guilty than Trump but whatever..... Correction... Barr says Mueller says no collusion. Mueller says nothing of the sort.
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13188 Gender:	Re: Is birtherism racist?... Reply #25 - 06/04/19 at 08:50:41 No, that's exactly what Mueller said.
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Reply #26 - 06/04/19 at 08:55:13

"Although the investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts, the investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.”

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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: Is birtherism racist?... Reply #27 - 06/04/19 at 09:22:25 WebsterMark wrote on 06/04/19 at 08:50:41: No, that's exactly what Mueller said. No collusion, but plenty of obstruction.
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Reply #28 - 06/04/19 at 09:53:29

T And T Garage wrote on 06/04/19 at 06:42:17:

pg wrote on 06/03/19 at 17:18:00:

T And T Garage wrote on 06/03/19 at 16:56:24:

you know the only reason he was questioned was the color of his skin and his name.

Sounds like an opinion to me, can you substantiate that statement?

Best regards,

No, it's not an opinion - there's no need to substantiate.

You must be having an off day when you start using the argument "because I said so." Grin

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Reply #29 - 06/04/19 at 10:06:27

pg wrote on 06/04/19 at 09:53:29:

T And T Garage wrote on 06/04/19 at 06:42:17:

pg wrote on 06/03/19 at 17:18:00:

T And T Garage wrote on 06/03/19 at 16:56:24:

you know the only reason he was questioned was the color of his skin and his name.

Sounds like an opinion to me, can you substantiate that statement?

Best regards,

No, it's not an opinion - there's no need to substantiate.

You must be having an off day when you start using the argument "because I said so." Grin

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Not at all. There simply isn't a need to substantiate.

In the history of presidential candidates or seated presidents, can you name me one single instance where there was a such a movement to obtain that person's birth certificate?

The answer is no. And why? Because it was racially motivated - due to the color of his skin and his name.

You can deny that all you want, but then you can also deny that water isn't wet.

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