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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13188 Gender:	Liar liar pants on fire.... 05/31/19 at 10:42:42 Obama tells Brazil crowd: "Some of you may be aware our gun laws in the United States don’t make much sense. Anybody can buy any weapon any time -- without much if any regulation, they can buy it over the Internet, they can buy machine guns."
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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9398 Minn Gender:	Re: Liar liar pants on fire.... Reply #1 - 05/31/19 at 10:56:50 Wonder if he learned to, LIE, like that from Sarah Brady ?
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28717 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Liar liar pants on fire.... Reply #2 - 05/31/19 at 12:50:33 We are the gun nuts of the world. Just ask the world. They are pretty easy to get. How else do we have so many?... I call BS on your BS call...
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Reply #3 - 05/31/19 at 14:13:04

Serowbot wrote on 05/31/19 at 12:50:33:

I call BS on your BS call...

Really ?
Ya haven't bought a gun, have you !
Or did someone teach you to say BS, JUST to say BS ?

Your statement of:
"They are pretty easy to get"
Is true, AFTER, one is vetted, by numerous ways.
Then, Because this is a FREE COUNTRY,
It is not s Socialistic Dictatorship.
A CITIZEN, has the RIGHT, to a firearm !

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Reply #4 - 05/31/19 at 14:29:37

Will take this apart piece by piece.

Obama tells Brazil crowd:
Yep LOLOL a LIE of the first class.

"Some of you may be aware our gun laws in the United States don’t make much sense.
And they don't, to oppressed, no freedom, people living under Socialist Dictatorship.

Anybody can buy any weapon any time
Nop, Nop, Nop, Another BIG Lie.

-- without much if any regulation,
Their is a Whole LOT OF Questions,
a WHOLE LOT !

they can buy it over the Internet,
Yep, that's true. The inference is, WITHOUT ANY RULES !!!!!
The FACTS, One can, 'buy', but not, 'possess'.
Until the firearm is shipped, ONLY, to a dealer in your State, (of your choice), than, YOU, go their, fill put the paperwork, get BACKGROUND Checked!

they can buy machine guns."
Again, Yup !!!!!!!
And Again, Buy, not 'POSSESS'.
(And you know full well what the inference was)
If one wished to, Possess, the paperwork, 1st time, can take up to TWO YEARS. And it is 10 times more invasive than a semi-auto firearm.

But of course,
NEVER MIND THE FACTS,
YOUR, mind is made up !

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .

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Reply #5 - 05/31/19 at 14:30:33

As usual this all depends on how one wants to interpret it:

"Some of you may be aware our gun laws in the United States don’t make much sense. Anybody can buy any weapon any time (Untrue, Children, Prisoners, Convicted and Documented Felons can not)

-- without much if any regulation, (Untrue, firearms are controlled in official sales)

they can buy it over the Internet, they can buy machine guns." (Untrue, purchases must be made in-person and require a background check during official sales.)

Lies, there is plenty of safeguards to firearm acquisition.

Or...

Some of you may be aware our gun laws in the United States don’t make much sense. Anybody can buy any weapon any time (True, most children, and convicted felons can buy a gun from someone they know, similar to illegal alcohol or drug sales, mass quantities allows for competitive pricing.)

-- without much if any regulation, (True, firearms do not require any government/state registration, you can gift guns to others without oversight, the large availability of unregistered guns limits regulation)

they can buy it over the Internet, they can buy machine guns." (True, a 15 minute trip through the Dark Web will allow for the purchase of fully-automatic weapons dead-dropped in specific locations, the large-scale availability of firearms makes this possible)

True. The overwhelming availability of legal and illegal firearms allows for anyone willing to look, to get a firearm, illegal or not.

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 9398 Minn Gender:	Re: Liar liar pants on fire.... Reply #6 - 05/31/19 at 14:36:52 Eegore wrote on 05/31/19 at 14:30:33: the large-scale availability of firearms makes this possible) How is that WAR on drugs going ???????? Firearms, are a drop in the bucket, compared to illegal drug availability !
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Reply #7 - 05/31/19 at 14:46:09

"How is that WAR on drugs going ????????

Firearms, are a drop in the bucket,
compared to illegal drug availability !"

I agree. I mentioned that specific thing actually.

I also did not see anything in the OP about Obama talking about drugs so I didn't bring it up beyond comparison of availability. Lets mention alcohol abuse and domestic violence if we want to hit some really big and unrelated numbers that Obama wasn't talking about.

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Reply #8 - 05/31/19 at 15:24:09

Anybody, anytime,.. is obviously hyperbole... but his main point is the ease of availability of firearms in America.
If you want to nitpick,.. it's a lie.
...but we are a curiosity in the world because of our love affair with guns.
...and we are ~~coincidentally~~... coincidingly the mass shooting capital of the world.
Point made... and indisputable...

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28717 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Liar liar pants on fire.... Reply #9 - 05/31/19 at 16:29:08 ... and 12 dead in Virginia Beach,.. today. https://www.yahoo.com/gma/multiple-people-injured-shooter-custody-virginia-be... "Cervera described the shooting as a "devastating incident" that "will change a lot of lives.""
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Liar liar pants on fire.... Reply #10 - 05/31/19 at 17:07:08 Bought it online? No background check? Anyone can get anything that way..
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13188 Gender:	Re: Liar liar pants on fire.... Reply #11 - 05/31/19 at 18:22:17 If you want to nitpick,.. it's a lie. I think I'll save that quote of yours, got a feeling it might come in handy.....
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Reply #12 - 05/31/19 at 20:31:52

"Bought it online?
No background check?
Anyone can get anything that way.. "

In the US it is significantly easier to acquire firearms than most other parts of the world by using the internet. I mean a 12 year old can get one really easy, even I was surprised at how easy it was to locally source and I see this stuff all the time.

It's rather easy for prostitution too, most of which is forced. Its just the economics of our society. In other countries its easier to source different things, for instance Canada has a huge illegal pharmaceutical online market.

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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Liar liar pants on fire.... Reply #13 - 05/31/19 at 20:36:50 I'll get worked up over the concerns of taking a life, of another, be it with a gun, or a vacuum, when folks get honest and stop pandering with disingenuous caring about the welfare of others......
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8403	Re: Liar liar pants on fire.... Reply #14 - 05/31/19 at 20:43:24 So you require someone else to care first?
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