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no right to vote
05/24/19 at 09:58:43
 




Contrary to popular belief, there is not an affirmative right to vote in the U.S. Constitution

While the U.S. Constitution bans the restriction of voting based on race, sex and age, it does not explicitly and affirmatively state that all U.S. citizens have a right to vote. The Supreme Court ruled in Bush v. Gore in 2000 that citizens do not have the right to vote for electors for president. States control voting policies and procedures, and as a result, we have a patchwork of inconsistent voting rules run independently by 50 states, 3,067 counties and over 13,000 voting districts, all separate and unequal.


https://www.fairvote.org/right_to_vote_amendment
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Reply #1 - 05/24/19 at 10:15:49
 

 The number of people that refuse to accept this is astounding to me.  All the time I hear "Its me Constitutional right!" yet can provide zero evidence.

 The problem I have with the current proposal is the broad spectrum that "shall have the fundamental right to vote in any public election held in the jurisdiction in which the citizen resides." causes issue with people currently incarcerated.  Do they reside where they are incarcerated like Texas, even if they committed a crime in Florida and lived in Maine?

 I still feel that if you should be a free citizen to vote.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-joint-resolution/74/text
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Reply #2 - 05/24/19 at 10:49:46
 
Eegore wrote on 05/24/19 at 10:15:49:
'... you should be a free citizen to vote...

Please describe, 'citizen'.

Would that be a, citizen' of the Country of Mexico,
who is allowed to Vote in a USA election?
Or would that be a, 'citizen', of the Country of the USA,
Allowed to vote in a Country of Mexico election.

Or would that be a, 'citizen', of the USA,
that is allowed to vote in a election, in the USA ?



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Reply #3 - 05/24/19 at 11:13:23
 

 For me it should me US citizen.

 For the proposed legislation it does not clarify.
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Reply #4 - 05/24/19 at 11:21:38
 
Eegore wrote on 05/24/19 at 11:13:23:
 For me it should me US citizen.
 For the proposed legislation it does not clarify.

And among the, (UL FDS Socialists) people sponsoring that bill is,
Ellison
Anyone think, their is a Reason,
'...proposed legislation it does not clarify..."
?????????



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Reply #5 - 05/24/19 at 11:51:39
 

"Anyone think, their is a Reason,
'...proposed legislation it does not clarify..."
?????????"


 Because of the second section that would allow for specifics to be implemented and enforced.
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Re: no right to vote
Reply #6 - 05/24/19 at 12:12:32
 
Eegore wrote on 05/24/19 at 11:13:23:
 For me it should me US citizen.

 For the proposed legislation it does not clarify.



it's for an amendment to the US Constitution...   not he Russian constitution... or the French, or the Nigerian...   wtf people
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Reply #7 - 05/24/19 at 13:38:45
 
Hey Lost, I thought you said you didn't approve of the tall table and wanted to disband it.

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Reply #8 - 05/24/19 at 15:49:32
 
LostArtist wrote on 05/24/19 at 09:58:43:
Contrary to popular belief, there is not an affirmative right to vote in the U.S. Constitution

So interesting that, YOUR, 'right to vote' says:
'Will non-citizens and 16-year-olds be able to vote?
Under this amendment the decision about expanding the franchise to non-citizens and 16- and 17-year-olds would remain within states’ jurisdiction"


And that, YOUR spokes person, was ELECTED, on NON  Citizens Voting !.

https://www.fairvote.org/right_to_vote_amendment
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Reply #9 - 05/24/19 at 15:55:48
 
Contrary to popular Rightwingut belief,... there weren't millions of non-citizens voting in the last election...
...(not even dozens)... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
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Reply #10 - 05/28/19 at 07:07:35
 
Serowbot wrote on 05/24/19 at 15:55:48:
Contrary to popular Rightwingut belief,... there weren't millions of non-citizens voting in the last election...
...(not even dozens)... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There's evidence out there to contest your 'dozens' belief, but with your democrats obstruction, we'll never know will we?
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Reply #11 - 05/28/19 at 08:19:38
 
verslagen1 wrote on 05/28/19 at 07:07:35:
Serowbot wrote on 05/24/19 at 15:55:48:
Contrary to popular Rightwingut belief,... there weren't millions of non-citizens voting in the last election...
...(not even dozens)... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There's evidence out there to contest your 'dozens' belief, but with your democrats obstruction, we'll never know will we?


"Obstruction"?  Really?  Didn't trump put together an entire team to investigate the "fraud"?  They found nothing.

The obstruction you mention is indeed fake news.
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Reply #12 - 05/28/19 at 09:20:07
 
T And T Garage wrote on 05/28/19 at 08:19:38:
The obstruction you mention is indeed fake news

Do you drive a car ?
Ever gone over the speed limit ?
So believing you, then YOU, go to the police station and say: 'Give me a ticket, because I was speeding".

Rather the same thing with the investigation.
It was stalled, because their was NO, AG or Election official that would 'tell on', themselves.

Many States, MANY.
Just tick a box on a computer or a piece of paper,
and you Never have to, PROVE, your Citizenship.

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Reply #13 - 05/28/19 at 09:24:48
 
T And T Garage wrote on 05/28/19 at 08:19:38:
verslagen1 wrote on 05/28/19 at 07:07:35:
Serowbot wrote on 05/24/19 at 15:55:48:
Contrary to popular Rightwingut belief,... there weren't millions of non-citizens voting in the last election...
...(not even dozens)... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There's evidence out there to contest your 'dozens' belief, but with your democrats obstruction, we'll never know will we?


"Obstruction"?  Really?  Didn't trump put together an entire team to investigate the "fraud"?  They found nothing.

The obstruction you mention is indeed fake news.


List all the states that submitter voter registration data or their voter vetting process.
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Reply #14 - 05/28/19 at 09:34:18
 
verslagen1 wrote on 05/28/19 at 09:24:48:
T And T Garage wrote on 05/28/19 at 08:19:38:
verslagen1 wrote on 05/28/19 at 07:07:35:
Serowbot wrote on 05/24/19 at 15:55:48:
Contrary to popular Rightwingut belief,... there weren't millions of non-citizens voting in the last election...
...(not even dozens)... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

There's evidence out there to contest your 'dozens' belief, but with your democrats obstruction, we'll never know will we?


"Obstruction"?  Really?  Didn't trump put together an entire team to investigate the "fraud"?  They found nothing.

The obstruction you mention is indeed fake news.


List all the states that submitter voter registration data or their voter vetting process.



Here you go:

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/access-to-and-use-of-vot...

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