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Re: A warning from the dead
Reply #15 - 05/13/19 at 17:37:53

https://endcoal.org/global-coal-plant-tracker/

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JKJJa-jwK6YpkEQKP2bcENHR2yoS40ur8baQnIXH
tIU/edit#gid=0

6,732 operating coal power plants world wide with another 725 preapproved plants being built. Even if I believed in climate change, nothing we can do in the US will have any effect whatsoever.

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Re: A warning from the dead
Reply #16 - 05/13/19 at 17:46:04

pg wrote on 05/13/19 at 17:37:53:

https://endcoal.org/global-coal-plant-tracker/

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JKJJa-jwK6YpkEQKP2bcENHR2yoS40ur8baQnIXH
tIU/edit#gid=0

6,732 operating coal power plants world wide with another 725 preapproved plants being built. Even if I believed in climate change, nothing we can do in the US will have any effect whatsoever.

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"Nothing we can do" is a cop out. Carbon tax. Clean energy subsidies/incentives. Just go watch the John Oliver video I posted.

There's a boatload we can do.

The politicians are in the pocket of the oil companies. Just do the math.

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Re: A warning from the dead
Reply #17 - 05/14/19 at 12:15:50

[pre][/pre]The politicians are in the pocket of the oil companies. Just do the math.

Oooh, if I said that
It would have been
A Conspeeerasee theory.

Look at how the Paris accord is working out.
America has dropped co2 emissions.
As if they make a difference.
Is it just me or is it kinda funny watching
Global Warming Alarmists

FLY THEIR JETS to protests
And Fat Al Gore uses cities worth of electricity
And
Buys property that HE BELIEVES will be under water.
Such conflict between words and behavior could cause someone who ISN'T an idiot to wonder.

Co2 feeds plants
Plants create oxygen
Plants create shade
Cooling the ground
The Medieval warm period was warmer than it is now.
Humans survived.
Flourished.

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Re: A warning from the dead
Reply #18 - 05/14/19 at 13:23:24

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/14/19 at 12:15:50:

[pre][/pre]The politicians are in the pocket of the oil companies. Just do the math.

Oooh, if I said that
It would have been
A Conspeeerasee theory.

Aww, poor you jog. The fact is. I've been saying that for quite a while... So no - had you said it, I would have agreed with you.

Look at how the Paris accord is working out.
America has dropped co2 emissions.
As if they make a difference.
Is it just me or is it kinda funny watching
Global Warming Alarmists

America is a World Leader (not sure how at this point, but we are). When we give up, so will others. It was a stupid thing to do.

FLY THEIR JETS to protests
And Fat Al Gore uses cities worth of electricity
And
Buys property that HE BELIEVES will be under water.
Such conflict between words and behavior could cause someone who ISN'T an idiot to wonder.

Again - you're ignorant to the bigger picture. it's about bringing awareness. But why the hell should you care, right?

Co2 feeds plants
Plants create oxygen
Plants create shade
Cooling the ground
The Medieval warm period was warmer than it is now.
Humans survived.
Flourished.

Go visit Venus and see how many plants are growing.....

Your CO2 equation is easily debunked.

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Re: A warning from the dead
Reply #20 - 05/15/19 at 06:48:07

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/14/19 at 15:48:48:

Ha ha ha, you didn't go off the rails at all there.
Really? Another PLANET?
That's your model?
You're insane.
No my co2 model can't be debunked.
SCIENCE proves it.
Satellite imagery proves it.
I've ALREADY shown it.
Doofus

Aww, sorry to burst your bubble jog, but once again, your foil hat conspiracy is easily dismissed:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ask-the-experts-does-rising-co2-ben...

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/imageo/2018/03/12/what-science-says-about-r...

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2016/sep...

http://www.iflscience.com/environment/rising-carbon-dioxide-greening-earth-it...

http://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/30/science/climate-change-plants-global-greeni...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-skeptics-want-more-co2/

There's tons more out there jog - you're just willfully ignorant.

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Re: A warning from the dead
Reply #21 - 05/15/19 at 13:15:42

"No my co2 model can't be debunked.
SCIENCE proves it."

To be fair you mean selective SCIENCE as you don't acknowledge the portions of a study you don't "care" about.

Like the large multi-year study you wont read, but will reference if the section supports your theory. Dismissing the analysis of man-made alterations and ignoring that tree density, in the very study you reference, is not an indicator of safe CO2 levels.

That study's CO2 information is real science, each measurement is quantified using gas chromatography/flame ionization detector/mass spectroscopy. Those results come from a culmination of various carbon sinks. That's measurable, verifiable and reproducible, but who cares about that part. Lets just say "more trees is good" and thus nullifies any other information about unsafe for humans CO2 levels.

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Re: A warning from the dead
Reply #22 - 05/16/19 at 07:33:46

Eegore wrote on 05/15/19 at 13:15:42:

Like the large multi-year study you wont read, but will reference if the section supports your theory. Dismissing the analysis of man-made alterations and ignoring that tree density, in the very study you reference, is not an indicator of safe CO2 levels. .

Which link is that?
I only saw opinion links.

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