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Reply #15 - 05/01/19 at 05:46:30

pg wrote on 04/30/19 at 16:04:34:

Please show me where in the Constitution it states the government pays for college education..... How about health care, how about housing............

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No where... gee you really got me pro golfer..... Cheesy

Oh, but it also doesn't lay out how we form a military (other than a navy), a space program, an interstate highway system, foreign aid, etc....

So, nice try. But no....

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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: No more schooling debt...HOORAY BERNIE! Reply #16 - 05/01/19 at 05:47:03 Eegore wrote on 04/30/19 at 19:36:40: Show me in the Constitution where women have the right to vote. Oh wait, it was added, 19 Amendments later. Too bad we can't continue to amend the Constitution. (mic drop)
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: No more schooling debt...HOORAY BERNIE! Reply #17 - 05/01/19 at 06:25:33 T And T Garage wrote on 04/23/19 at 06:15:43: Those on the left must follow the Constitution - no exceptions. Touché Best regards,
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Reply #18 - 05/01/19 at 07:26:58

"What comes to mind for me is, "The right to privacy"

No way did the founders imagine the abilities the computer would be able to circumvent its basic premise.
It goes beyond commerce, way past that point, and who knows where else.
How will we insure that right without abridging other rights, etc?"

Well my point towards the argument "Show me in the Constitution" is generally a weak argument since the Constitution changes all the time. If it were a stable unchangeable document then the argument would hold more ground, but this is about suggested due-process reform regarding college debt.

When women's voting was brought into question the argument "Show me in the Constitution" held no ground because the process was to amend it to reflect the rights of women. This goes for all Amendments.

As for the modern digital environment and privacy rights, the same principle applies. We need to push for modern amendments and laws due to modernization.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28890 L.A. California Gender:	Re: No more schooling debt...HOORAY BERNIE! Reply #19 - 05/01/19 at 11:20:02 There are state supported colleges and universities, they're not free but much more economical then private c's and u's. Coupled with grants and scholarships, they are free.
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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: No more schooling debt...HOORAY BERNIE! Reply #20 - 05/01/19 at 13:27:32 Bill of Rights: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Can't pursue it if you can't afford the education for primo jobs and income.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: No more schooling debt...HOORAY BERNIE! Reply #21 - 05/01/19 at 18:35:46 Trippah wrote on 05/01/19 at 13:27:32: Bill of Rights: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Can't pursue it if you can't afford the education for primo jobs and income. / Really? Which one? And you can Pursue Anything. Might not catch it,,
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: No more schooling debt...HOORAY BERNIE! Reply #22 - 05/01/19 at 18:39:30 Trippah wrote on 05/01/19 at 13:27:32: Bill of Rights: Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Can't pursue it if you can't afford the education for primo jobs and income. Not my problem..... Best regards,
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: No more schooling debt...HOORAY BERNIE! Reply #23 - 05/01/19 at 20:19:48 I don't think it's in the Bill of Rights.
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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: No more schooling debt...HOORAY BERNIE! Reply #24 - 05/01/19 at 20:25:47 So right, it is in the Declaration of Independence actually.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: No more schooling debt...HOORAY BERNIE! Reply #25 - 05/01/19 at 20:41:22 And? How does that impact your point? Suddenly, it's Not in the Constitution... Now what?
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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: No more schooling debt...HOORAY BERNIE! Reply #26 - 05/02/19 at 07:58:10 It doesn't; but for some this indeed shifts it from a Constitutional Law question to an issue about what the USA is about - opportunity and freedom.
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Reply #27 - 05/02/19 at 08:17:27

It decimated your argument.
You were pointing to the Constitution and complaining about a non issue.
You're still very confused about what the words mean.
It's nobody's duty to create For you
Opportunity.
It's up to the individual to choose their path through life.
We
Pursue
Life, liberty and happiness.

It's our Right to live in a country where the government doesn't crush one and lift up another.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: No more schooling debt...HOORAY BERNIE! Reply #28 - 05/02/19 at 09:14:50 Everyone knows the Declaration begins: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
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Reply #29 - 05/02/19 at 09:22:58

Our inherent
Right to Life
Is the basis for the
Right of Self Defense.
The inherent desire for
Liberty is no GUARANTEE of liberty
But the Constitution Is written in a way that restrains the government from unlawfully restricting your liberty.
It's not a Guarantee that we won't encounter situations that encroach on it.
The inherent desire to be happy is acknowledged. We have a Right to PURSUE it. But, again, no GUARANTEE that we will ever be in The exact situation that will make or allow it.
And how confusing is it that suddenly you, of all people, are suddenly championing the ideology of Frikken slave owners? Suddenly the Fan Boy? I'm shokkt!

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