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Reply #15 - 04/07/19 at 12:03:02

Yes, I have first hand knowledge of all of the following - "Some people lack the means or ability to get off these programs and some take pride in beating the system."

In 2016, the Office of Investigations for the Social Security Administration received 143,385 allegations and opened 8,048 cases. Of those cases, about 1,162 persons were convicted for crime. Recoveries amounted to $52,6 million, fines to $4,5 million, settlements/judgements to $1,7 million and restitution to $70 million. The estimated savings were $355,7 million.

https://oig.ssa.gov/semiannual-reports/fall-2016

According to estimates by auditors of the SSA, fraud against the various SSA benefits programs may account for as much as ten percent of all costs to the Social Security Trust Funds. According to John K. Webb, Special Assistant United States Attorney Central District of California, the statistics suggest an alarming increase in fraudulent claims to retirement benefits that threaten the integrity of the Social Security Trust Funds and block access by needy applicants with legitimate claims for benefits.

https://famguardian.org/Publications/USAttyBulletins/usab5206.pdf

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Reply #16 - 04/08/19 at 05:40:16

pg wrote on 04/07/19 at 12:03:02:

Yes, I have first hand knowledge of all of the following - "Some people lack the means or ability to get off these programs and some take pride in beating the system."

In 2016, the Office of Investigations for the Social Security Administration received 143,385 allegations and opened 8,048 cases. Of those cases, about 1,162 persons were convicted for crime. Recoveries amounted to $52,6 million, fines to $4,5 million, settlements/judgements to $1,7 million and restitution to $70 million. The estimated savings were $355,7 million.

https://oig.ssa.gov/semiannual-reports/fall-2016

According to estimates by auditors of the SSA, fraud against the various SSA benefits programs may account for as much as ten percent of all costs to the Social Security Trust Funds. According to John K. Webb, Special Assistant United States Attorney Central District of California, the statistics suggest an alarming increase in fraudulent claims to retirement benefits that threaten the integrity of the Social Security Trust Funds and block access by needy applicants with legitimate claims for benefits.

https://famguardian.org/Publications/USAttyBulletins/usab5206.pdf

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Proof of pride of cheating the system?

1162 convictions - and how many receive benefits? Do statistics and averages matter to you?

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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5273 In Transit	Re: HOMELESS IN SEATTLE Reply #17 - 04/08/19 at 07:19:05 T And T Garage wrote on 04/08/19 at 05:40:16: Do statistics and averages matter to you? Absolutely, my scoring average! On a more serious note you inquired about data, and you got it. "Do you have any data, first had experience to back that claim up?" Best regards,
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Reply #18 - 04/08/19 at 07:23:34

pg wrote on 04/08/19 at 07:19:05:

T And T Garage wrote on 04/08/19 at 05:40:16:

Do statistics and averages matter to you?

Absolutely, my scoring average!

Well then - given the number of people receiving aid - that's a pretty low percentage and hardly reason to panic. Further, the data you cite sows that the government is actually doing their job catching these thieves.

On a more serious note you inquired about data, and you got it.

"Do you have any data, first had experience to back that claim up?"

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You said there was "pride" in cheating the system.

That's an assumption by you, isn't it?

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28890 L.A. California Gender:	Re: HOMELESS IN SEATTLE Reply #19 - 04/08/19 at 07:35:20 Why do you always reply like someone just outed your mama? I know they take pride in it, you'll have to take your head out... of the clouds and listen the the conversations around you.
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Reply #20 - 04/08/19 at 07:47:08

verslagen1 wrote on 04/08/19 at 07:35:20:

Why do you always reply like someone just outed your mama?

I know they take pride in it, you'll have to take your head out... of the clouds and listen the the conversations around you.

"They" do?

Who exactly are "they" vers?

Do you know the people who take pride in cheating the system?

Have you ever actually seen them?

Your ASSumptions are all you have, huh?

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28890 L.A. California Gender:	Re: HOMELESS IN SEATTLE Reply #21 - 04/08/19 at 07:51:39 You're the one making the assumptions.
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: HOMELESS IN SEATTLE Reply #22 - 04/08/19 at 07:59:58 verslagen1 wrote on 04/08/19 at 07:51:39: You're the one making the assumptions. Am I? Well then vers, please show all of us the proof you have of those "proud" people who are ripping off welfare. Show us how they're so "proud" of themselves.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28890 L.A. California Gender:	Re: HOMELESS IN SEATTLE Reply #23 - 04/08/19 at 08:10:26 Now you're just being yourself. I have no 'proof' that I overheard conversations telling my brother how to game the system.
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Reply #24 - 04/08/19 at 08:34:50

verslagen1 wrote on 04/08/19 at 08:10:26:

Now you're just being yourself.

I have no 'proof' that I overheard conversations telling my brother how to game the system.

Oh, so it's only anecdotal, huh?

So what do you base your assumptions on vers?

How many out there are "gaming"the system and proud of it?

Because you heard a story about it, you think it's gospel? (talk about pulling your head out)

Hey, I know, maybe I should start assuming that all conservatives think exactly like alex jones. Yeah, that's right. I mean, he does support the president, and he was once told he was doing a "great job" by trump.

Yeah, so then that's the way it'll be.... right? I mean, if there's one crazy dude who supports trump, then they all must be crazy, right?

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28890 L.A. California Gender:	Re: HOMELESS IN SEATTLE Reply #25 - 04/08/19 at 10:07:23 pg wrote on 04/07/19 at 12:03:02: In 2016, the Office of Investigations for the Social Security Administration received 143,385 allegations and opened 8,048 cases. Of those cases, about 1,162 persons were convicted for crime. I'm sure they were quite proud of their accomplishments upon till they were caught.
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Reply #26 - 04/08/19 at 10:43:41

verslagen1 wrote on 04/08/19 at 10:07:23:

pg wrote on 04/07/19 at 12:03:02:

In 2016, the Office of Investigations for the Social Security Administration received 143,385 allegations and opened 8,048 cases. Of those cases, about 1,162 persons were convicted for crime.

I'm sure they were quite proud of their accomplishments upon till they were caught.

Hey vers - guess what? That's a ASSUmption.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28890 L.A. California Gender:	Re: HOMELESS IN SEATTLE Reply #27 - 04/08/19 at 11:58:34 Yeah, you know what you are.
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T And T Garage Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 9839	Re: HOMELESS IN SEATTLE Reply #28 - 04/08/19 at 12:33:13 verslagen1 wrote on 04/08/19 at 11:58:34: Yeah, you know what you are. Yeah, I do. I love who I am. And conversely, I know who and what you are too.
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