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Reply #30 - 04/11/19 at 05:46:30
 
pg wrote on 04/11/19 at 03:40:10:
Eegore wrote on 04/10/19 at 19:55:12:
"Wow, the Antifa supporter is trying to take the high road...…"

 What specifically is the problem with being anti-fascist?




Supporting anti-fascist values and supporting Antifa is a different matter in of in itself.  In his aforementioned post he supports intimidation as long as it is legal.  Does that specifically address the issue?  

Is protest intimidation?  I'd say that it is.  Is calling out someone in public intimidation?  I'd say that it is. (you wouldn't call out someone pissing on the sidewalk?)


That individual knowingly and willingly put themselves into a precarious position.  So did all these people....


https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/20/anti-trump-attacks-harassment-2018/

Funny list - have you ever read trump's twitter feed?  It's far worse than this "snowflake" list.  Gotta do better than that.

Sooner or later you will antagonize the wrong person.

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So let me get this straight - it's cool to retaliate violently if you're a trump supporter that's provoked, but if you're anti-trump it's not ok?

Seriously?  Hypocrisy much?
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Reply #31 - 04/11/19 at 05:56:36
 
 For every article showing people who harassed Trump supporters there is another showing the opposite.  Took less than a minute.

https://americasvoice.org/trumphatemap/

 The real issue is people want to leave out the parts where their viewpoint commits wrongdoing as well.  Its easier to maintain a victim status when one cherry-picks the data.
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Reply #32 - 04/11/19 at 06:06:51
 
No Eegore. The obvious fact is Trump supporters face verbal and physical altercations in far, far greater numbers. It's not a debatable point.

Hell, I could go through newspapers of the Jim Crow days and find an instance where a black man lashed out at a white man, but no one whould say "well, the violence happens on both sides. see this story?"

If all we had to do all day was look at every news outlet across the nation to prove this, we could.

Surely you don't think the style of intimidation of both sides is equal, do you?
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Reply #33 - 04/11/19 at 07:55:38
 
WebsterMark wrote on 04/11/19 at 06:06:51:
No Eegore. The obvious fact is Trump supporters face verbal and physical altercations in far, far greater numbers. It's not a debatable point.

LOL - yes, it is a debatable point - he just showed you.

Hell, I could go through newspapers of the Jim Crow days and find an instance where a black man lashed out at a white man, but no one whould say "well, the violence happens on both sides. see this story?"

Apples and oranges mark - you should know better.

If all we had to do all day was look at every news outlet across the nation to prove this, we could.

Surely you don't think the style of intimidation of both sides is equal, do you?


Not speaking for Eegore - but I'd say that yes - it is.  It wasn't always.  For a while, the maga crowd was far worse.  Can you sit there and deny that trump didn't incite violence at his campaign rallies? (we can easily go to the videos)  His encouragement of his rabid base led many to violence.  That cluster fukc of a rally in Charlottesville is just one example.

If maga(ts) feel threatened by others - that's on them.  A majority of their crowd are well deserving of criticism.
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Reply #34 - 04/11/19 at 08:15:23
 
Not speaking for Eegore - but I'd say that yes - it is.

You are arguing that 2+2=5.

this was from yesterday. Can you show me a group of conservative students shouting down an open meeting of a group with a liberal point of view. Oh, and absolutely no repercussions from the school afterwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS2Vwp4A7ck

For every example you show me of conservatives acting like the video above, I'll find 3 liberal groups.
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Reply #35 - 04/11/19 at 08:24:51
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6DKONujQwU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-dKiDybMcE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7VG919ttTA

and this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoCyiQeHfZg

Find me four like this. and when you do, I'll find dozens of more like mine. Go ahead, take this bet.
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Reply #36 - 04/11/19 at 09:23:26
 
WebsterMark wrote on 04/11/19 at 08:24:51:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6DKONujQwU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-dKiDybMcE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7VG919ttTA

and this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoCyiQeHfZg

Find me four like this. and when you do, I'll find dozens of more like mine. Go ahead, take this bet.


Well mark, I have to say - there are a lot more examples of protests against the right wing than the left.

But your boys have the market cornered on killing.

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Reply #37 - 04/11/19 at 09:26:15
 
Mark,


you always complain about democrats playing the victim, heck you just posted a thread where Candace Owens shames the democrats for playing identity politics and using fear mongering of white nationalism to stir up sympathy and support....  

and here you are...  doing the same thing only for you red hatted folk....

you really are quit oblivious to the hypocrisy you preach

but you're also delusional and think the left are more violent than the right even though every statistical source says otherwise by a LONG LONG shot

you don't get to have your own facts. stop it

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Reply #40 - 04/11/19 at 10:01:41
 
WebsterMark wrote on 04/11/19 at 06:06:51:
No Eegore. The obvious fact is Trump supporters face verbal and physical altercations in far, far greater numbers. It's not a debatable point.

Hell, I could go through newspapers of the Jim Crow days and find an instance where a black man lashed out at a white man, but no one whould say "well, the violence happens on both sides. see this story?"

If all we had to do all day was look at every news outlet across the nation to prove this, we could.

Surely you don't think the style of intimidation of both sides is equal, do you?


so you admit, in history, the say 100 years between the end of the Civil War and the Civil Rights movement that conservatives (democrats or not, there used to be conservative democrats)  were more violent,

and maybe that with those 100 years of legal racism, maybe perhaps some systemic rules and regulations and laws and traditions might have been passed that we mostly ignore until we are forced to change, so, how many rules, regulations, laws, and traditions might have a racist tinge to them over those 100+years??   think it might take more than 100 years to clean all those up?
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Reply #41 - 04/11/19 at 10:17:53
 
Well mark, I have to say - there are a lot more examples of protests against the right wing than the left.

I'm sorry, are you calling this protest?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoCyiQeHfZg
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Reply #42 - 04/11/19 at 12:21:44
 
like this:


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Reply #43 - 04/11/19 at 12:42:50
 
or:

Violence at Tea Party rally: bare-knuckle politics in the streets

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2009/1118/violence-at-tea-party-rally-...
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Re: Smart Guy
Reply #44 - 04/11/19 at 12:48:28
 
and seriously is the right wing media just filling you with all this kinda fear mongering crap? and you're just eating it up, digging it all up , like that silly video you showed of some idiot kicking another kid or something... it'd be like me reporting to you all the harassment lgbtq people got in high schools and in the 80s and 90s, not to mention all the actual violence done to them that didn't get reported back when there wasn't a YouTube...

and by far, the right is WAY more dangerous, you guys have many many many more murders on your hands than the left, DEAL WITH IT and quit being a victim of your own sides' fear mongering propaganda
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