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Re: Smart Guy
Reply #105 - 04/18/19 at 07:54:43
 
LostArtist wrote on 04/17/19 at 15:59:13:
MnSpring wrote on 04/17/19 at 15:47:02:
And, another change !!!!!!!

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Reply #106 - 04/18/19 at 08:55:48
 
Serowbot wrote on 04/18/19 at 07:54:43:
LostArtist wrote on 04/17/19 at 15:59:13:
MnSpring wrote on 04/17/19 at 15:47:02:
And, another change !!!!!!!

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



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Reply #107 - 04/18/19 at 13:43:18
 
pg wrote on 04/18/19 at 03:59:49:
T And T Garage wrote on 04/17/19 at 15:39:28:
pg wrote on 04/17/19 at 15:26:37:
pg wrote on 04/17/19 at 14:12:54:
T And T Garage wrote on 04/17/19 at 13:48:38:
LOL - talk about spin!

Face it mark - the right wing killings in recent history in this country far surpass all other groups.

End.  Of.  Story.



What is scope and assessment criteria?

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Right-wing terrorists killed three times more people in US than Islamists in past decade with attacks soaring in 2018


Henceforth the reason for my inquiry regarding parameters, you excluded the entire demographic that shares your views.   Let’s see some DATA…..

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No DATA huh..........

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Reply #108 - 04/18/19 at 14:07:05
 
pg wrote on 04/18/19 at 13:43:18:
pg wrote on 04/18/19 at 03:59:49:
T And T Garage wrote on 04/17/19 at 15:39:28:
pg wrote on 04/17/19 at 15:26:37:
pg wrote on 04/17/19 at 14:12:54:
T And T Garage wrote on 04/17/19 at 13:48:38:
LOL - talk about spin!

Face it mark - the right wing killings in recent history in this country far surpass all other groups.

End.  Of.  Story.



What is scope and assessment criteria?

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Just want to make sure the field goal posts stay in the stadium....

Best regards,


Right-wing terrorists killed three times more people in US than Islamists in past decade with attacks soaring in 2018


Henceforth the reason for my inquiry regarding parameters, you excluded the entire demographic that shares your views.   Let’s see some DATA…..

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No DATA huh..........

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Not sure how much more data you need.

Read the posts - it's all right there.

Do you need to see every police report?

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Reply #109 - 04/18/19 at 14:46:14
 
The Anti-Defamation League is the source of the data and it is biased and unreliable.

Our friend TT will ignore the question about the Dallas police officers murders because he is afraid to find out if the report included those. If they did, where did they put them and why. Actually, that's not true, he's not afraid of the truth. He will simply ignore the truth and keep parroting the MSM's false narrative. Much as we've seen during this whole collision mess. Once it became clear there was no collusion, all the talk about Trump and the Russians is deleted from his mind and he seamlessly switches gears to obstruction.  It's like catching a child in a lie.
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Reply #110 - 04/18/19 at 15:02:01
 
WebsterMark wrote on 04/18/19 at 14:46:14:
The Anti-Defamation League is the source of the data and it is biased and unreliable.

OK then mark - shall I just go and pull up the individual articles?

Our friend TT will ignore the question about the Dallas police officers murders because he is afraid to find out if the report included those. If they did, where did they put them and why. Actually, that's not true, he's not afraid of the truth. He will simply ignore the truth and keep parroting the MSM's false narrative. Much as we've seen during this whole collision mess. Once it became clear there was no collusion, all the talk about Trump and the Russians is deleted from his mind and he seamlessly switches gears to obstruction.  It's like catching a child in a lie.


Well mark - even with that report, the sheer number of killings from the right wing outnumber everyone.

Such a fervent defense of such an obvious hate group.  You poor guy - someone must really have your number.
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Reply #111 - 04/18/19 at 15:26:06
 
Fine.....

Scott Beierle conducted a shooting spree at a yoga studio, killing two and wounding or injuring five more before killing himself on November 2, 2018, in Tallahassee, FL, Beierle, who had posted racist and misogynistic videos to YouTube, appears to have been motivated by the extreme misogyny of the “manosphere.”

White supremacist Robert Gregory Bowers, 46, conducted a deadly shooting spree October 27, 2018, in Pittsburgh, PA, at the Tree of Life synagogue, killing 11 and wounding seven more. Bowers appears to have been motivated by anti-Semitic and anti-immigrant convictions.

Jeremy James Shaw, 39, of Tacoma, allegedly conspired with his wife, Lorena Shaw, 37, to kill a Renton, Washington, man and steal his house and property on September 19, 2018. Shaw was a white supremacist who owned a business called Aryan Enterprises.

White supremacist Joden Rocco, 24, was charged with homicide after allegedly fatally stabbing an African-American man walking down the sidewalk outside a bar on August 19, 2018, in Pittsburgh, PA. Rocco had earlier posted a video in which he allegedly claimed that he and others were going to go to bars to see how many times they could say the n-word before being kicked out.,

On August 11, 2018, in Sumter, SC, Demetrius Alexander Brown, allegedly a self-proclaimed sovereign citizen, shot and killed a man at an automobile repair shop following a dispute.,

Richard Starry, 61, shot and killed four people who were family members or family connections in two locations around Robstown, TX, before killing himself on July 27, 2018. According to a media source, Starry, who had an extensive criminal record, had belonged to a white supremacist group while in prison.

James Mathis and Amanda Gail Oakes allegedly killed their six-month-old son and put his body in a freezer in a hotel on June 4, 2018, in Dothan, AL, before fleeing to Florida where they were arrested. Mathis was reportedly a member of the Ghost Face Gangsters, a Georgia-based white supremacist prison gang.

Malachi Qaadir Dorns, 19, an alleged self-proclaimed sovereign citizen, reportedly used a knife to kill his brother and wound his mother following an argument on May 11, 2018, in Athens, GA.

Roger Melvin Tackett, 44, walked into the Abingdon, VA, residence of an acquaintance on May 4, 2018, and shot him to death during a dispute. According to poice, Tackett has multiple white supremacist tattoos.

Jason Auvenshine, 47, killed a man on a skateboard in an auto collision then fled the scene on March 24, 2018, in Port Aransas, TX. Prosecutors said Auvenshine was a member of a white supremacist prison gang and even had a gang manual in his vehicle at the time of the collision. In May 2018, Auvenshine was convicted of intoxication manslaughter and failure to stop and render assistance and received two concurrent life sentences.

John Daniel Carothers, a resident of a Veteran Affairs assisted living home in Murfreesboro, TN, and a white supremacist, allegedly killed his African-American roommate by setting him on fire on March 17, 2018. He has been charged with first degree murder, aggravated arson and eight counts of reckless endangerment.,

Corey Johnson, 17, allegedly went on a stabbing rampage during a sleepover at a Palm Beach Gardens, FL, house, killing a 13-year old child and severely injuring two others on March 12, 2018. Johnson had long been obsessed with Nazis and white supremacists and within the past year had also become interested in radical Islam and a fan of Anwar al-Awlaki. Johnson allegedly subsequently told investigators he had carried out the stabbings because of his Muslim faith. He has been charged with first degree murder and attempted first degree murder.,

Nikolas Cruz, 19, conducted a shooting spree at his former high school, Marjory Stoneman Douglas High, in Parkland, FL, killing 17 and wounding 17 more. Cruz was a budding white supremacist — though that does not appear to have been the motive for his February 14, 2018, shooting spree.

Samuel Woodward, 20, a member of the white supremacist group Atomwaffen, allegedly stabbed to death a former high school classmate of his who was gay and Jewish on January 2, 2018, in Orange County, FL. Woodward has been charged with murder and a hate crime enhancement.

There is also an abundance of reports about right-wing extremism that was stopped before slayings occurred

In a chilling postscript to Robert Bowers’ murderous October shooting spree at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, authorities in Washington, D.C., arrested one of his on-line associates, Jeffrey Clark, Jr.

After family members contacted law enforcement out of concern that Clark, 30, might become violent, he was arrested and charged on November 9, 2018 with illegal transportation of a firearm across state lines, possession of an illegal high-capacity magazine, and unlawful use of a controlled substance (methamphetamine).

Clark was among the hundreds of white supremacists who showed up for the violent Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Dakota Reed, 20, of Monroe, Washington, was charged with malicious harassment—Washington’s hate crime statute—and making bomb threats in December 2018. Authorities also seized a cache of firearms, ammunition and white supremacist propaganda from Reed’s residence.

Elizabeth LeCron and Vincent Armstrong of Toledo, Ohio, were arrested in December 2018 on multiple charges related to a plot to blow up Toledo bar in order to cause mass casualties.

The couple was fascinated by mass killers, including Roof. LeCron created a Tumblr account called “CharlestonChurchMiracle” and even corresponded with Dylann Roof by mail, telling him to “be strong” after he murdered nine people in a racially motivated shooting spree at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015.

The perpetrator of one of 2018’s deadly shooting sprees, at a yoga studio in Tallahassee, was connected to the misogynistic incel/manosphere movement.

In the wake of this attack and a similarly-motivated killing spree in Toronto, Canada, ADL’s COE now tracks such incidents as extremist-related killings and has updated its database to include an earlier incel-linked incident, Elliot Rodger’s 2014 shooting spree.

Firearms remain the weapon of choice for extremists who kill. Guns were responsible for 42 of the 50 deaths in 2018, followed by blades or edged weapons.


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Re: Smart Guy
Reply #112 - 04/18/19 at 15:26:20
 
Until the data is fully disclosed, there's no point in discussing the issue.
Because I'm sure that while they can figure out how to discern Islamic vs left, they will lump all alt right groups as being a single group to further a falsehood. No one will accept nazies as a part of their group.
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Reply #113 - 04/18/19 at 15:35:38
 
oh hey, check it out, the Investigative Fund uses The Heritage Foundation as one of their sources



THE HATE REPORT
How we analyzed domestic terror incidents
By David Neiwert, The Investigative Fund      / June 22, 2017


"To build our Homegrown Terror database, we obtained data from a variety of sources: the Congressional Research Service, the FBI, DT Analytics, The Heritage Foundation, the Investigative Project on Terrorism, New America, Mother Jones, the Muslim Public Affairs Council, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Anti-Defamation League, the National Abortion Federation and the Animal Liberation Front’s own website. In addition, we set up news filters and searched journalism databases to scoop up missing incidents, using search terms such as “Islamist,” “sovereign citizen,” “Oath Keeper,” “ecoterrorism” and so on."

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-we-analyzed-domestic-terror-incidents/
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Reply #114 - 04/19/19 at 04:09:15
 
T And T Garage wrote on 04/18/19 at 15:26:06:
Fine.....


Real objective, you excluded all Muslim & Left wing violence.  Rather pathetic.....


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Reply #115 - 04/19/19 at 04:34:35
 
Malachi Qaadir Dorns, 19, an alleged self-proclaimed sovereign citizen, reportedly used a knife to kill his brother and wound his mother following an argument on May 11, 2018, in Athens, GA.

Nikolas Cruz, 19, conducted a shooting spree at his former high school, Marjory Stoneman Douglas High, in Parkland, FL, killing 17 and wounding 17 more. Cruz was a budding white supremacist — though that does not appear to have been the motive for his February 14, 2018, shooting spree.

Firearms remain the weapon of choice for extremists who kill. Guns were responsible for 42 of the 50 deaths in 2018, followed by blades or edged weapons.


Wow, I am stunned!  A guy killed his brother with a knife.  In your own post about the Hispanic white supremacist, “it does not appear to be the motive.”  Wow, violent people choose guns, no kidding…

If you are going to lump everything together, you can classify all that violence in Chicago as left wing.  How many murders in that democrat bastion of liberalism?

Regarding the Islam, here ya go…

https://thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/american-attacks.aspx

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Reply #116 - 04/19/19 at 04:39:33
 
LostArtist wrote on 04/18/19 at 15:35:38:
oh hey, check it out, the Investigative Fund uses The Heritage Foundation as one of their sources



THE HATE REPORT
How we analyzed domestic terror incidents
By David Neiwert, The Investigative Fund      / June 22, 2017


"To build our Homegrown Terror database, we obtained data from a variety of sources: the Congressional Research Service, the FBI, DT Analytics, The Heritage Foundation, the Investigative Project on Terrorism, New America, Mother Jones, the Muslim Public Affairs Council, the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Anti-Defamation League, the National Abortion Federation and the Animal Liberation Front’s own website. In addition, we set up news filters and searched journalism databases to scoop up missing incidents, using search terms such as “Islamist,” “sovereign citizen,” “Oath Keeper,” “ecoterrorism” and so on."

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-we-analyzed-domestic-terror-incidents/



( Mother Jones, the Muslim Public Affairs Council, the Southern Poverty Law Center,  the National Abortion Federation and the Animal Liberation Front’s )

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Reply #117 - 04/19/19 at 05:42:58
 
 Interesting nobody here has suggested using official, proven accurate resources such as the most scrutinized and reviewed crime-statistics on the planet.  FBI crime data and UCR.  

 UCR has verifiable data.  Every crime indicated has backing to it and can be researched.  Of course I am sure a lot of it is fake and fabricated since its from the government right?  Better stick to YouTube where the real data is.

https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/ucr
https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/ucr/hate-crime
https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-releases-preliminary-sem...

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Reply #118 - 04/19/19 at 06:22:45
 
To be fair Eegor
Lost artist post included the group got info from the Fbi.
But it looks like they were fishing for anything after that.
At one time slpc was a credible group but sadly they have gone off the deep end with a almost Puritanical "the devil is every where!" witch hunt.

I see the article they have claims to ~50 or so white supremist actions. some of them are rather questionable as pg has pointed out.
Chicago murders 2019 were 539. I don't think too many right wing raciest people were involved.
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Reply #119 - 04/19/19 at 06:47:49
 
"Lost artist post included the group got info from the Fbi."

 That is true, and they do outline how they categorize the events as well in the article.

"But it looks like they were fishing for anything after that."

 Why?  Is it the process they used to categorize, or the expert opinions, or just that SPLC was used?

 All I am saying is that the same information used in the debated article is useable for you.  People question it, but are they looking at the same data, or just trolling YouTube to provide a counter point?
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