Serowbot wrote on 03/29/19 at 08:23:54:


Okay, I'll play. Starting now, at 11.02 CST. Last post was pointing out what a pathetic loser TT is so that's a good one to end on.

PS: Starting now at 11:03 after that last sentence .....

Sero - I concur.  But to be realistic, the only one who's adhered to this principle has been Eegore.

I've always given back what I get.  I'm not sure I can do it any other way.

If someone pushes me, I push back.


However, I'll be curious to see how this goes.


Full disclosure, I will not curb my tongue when it comes to criticism of our president and his maga(t)s.

I'm pretty much done talking here as it's completely futile.  

I ask a question I end up spending 5 pages describing the question....  no actual discussion happens cause people want to be pedantic and pick every little possibility of every little thing  apart, Like Clinton asking "depends on what your definition of is is..."  

so, what's the sound of one hand clapping?

"people aren't robots "

 I agree.

 Also not being a robot doesn't change the assessment.  

 I don't expect change because people here expect someone else to do it.  I don't need to be respectful, I need other people to be respectful to me.  That's what's happening here.

All this requires is a Yes, I'm in or a No, I'm not.

"Correction - to me, not for me.  In my experience, respect is earned, not given out freely."

 In my experience respect is earned by giving it out freely.

 I understand your position, I am just saying that having the parameter that I can become disrespectful once someone does it first means there is zero capacity for actual change.  In this case the forums deteriorate because anyone can just type an offensive sentence.  Should it be that easy?

 That's literally a formula that gives the responsibility of prolonged change to everyone else but me.  People calling me names does nothing to me, as in my physical being and my capability to effect the world around me in a positive way.  

Eegore wrote on 03/29/19 at 10:41:22:



I understand where you're coming from, completely.

But, sometimes there needs to be a little passion in the conversation.

Example:

On several occasions, I've been called a liar - for no other reason than the person doing the name-calling didn't like or believe me.  Unless you can prove that what I'm saying/inferring is a lie, there is no basis for the name-calling. (short of me saying something outrageous like "I can run 50 miles an hour").

Now, my response to that name-calling would probably be "prove it", perhaps with a little snark thrown in because I felt the name-caller was snarky to begin with.  I would speculate that your response would probably be - not to respond.  That's where we differ.

Let's keep it real here Eegore - at some point, the conversation will degenerate into something that it shouldn't.  Just like threads get hijacked - there will always be that one person who refuses to stay within the limits of good taste.  That's not altogether a bad thing.  Variety is the spice of life - when used in moderation.

But hey - Here's to a better Tall Table!  I'll try and do my part.