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Reply #15 - 02/17/19 at 15:26:44
 
Ya wanna clean this stuff up pronto?

Have a new law, that similar to the reasoning behind "hate crimes"

That politicians, and the media, who willfully engages in deceitful and accusatory accusations based on anything other than unmitigated facts, shall be punished and fine to the maximum of the law, as a result of the damage it causes to society.

Its always about the money, use it for a beneficial reason to bring about civility.

Well?   Smiley  
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Reply #16 - 02/17/19 at 18:28:56
 
raydawg wrote on 02/17/19 at 12:21:10:
look forward to a future of AOCs and Betos.  They will not take money from PACs or dark money.  They will be owned only by their constituents.

For sure the younger folks are more familiar and adapt at the technologies of the INTERNET/social medias ability to carry their message.
I think Obama had folks who really brought it into the strategy.
Trump has used it as well.

This is why in one of my replies above I brought up the INTERNET and how laws might need to encroach on our freedoms, to protect, that freedom, through privacy invasions.....

That will be a very tall hurdle, doubly so if folks are willing to surrender it to powers that use fear as a tactic to gain it.....nothing new here, either.

Money out of politics is a pipe dream, money is power, always has been, always will be.

Not true.  It hasn't always been this way.  Before the likes of ronnie, Carter and Ford went with the Presidential Campaign Fund, and that was pretty much it.

Citizens United is one of the biggest threats to our democracy.  Money is not speech.


Reminds me of stuff like this: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2004/10/18/the-money-man

That is irony on its face!

How is that irony?  Funding on either side by the likes of soros, or the koch brothers is what's wrong.

I share your hope, but this gal most likely will succumb much faster to the power of which money can buy, justified in order to promote her agenda, against the use of money, in politics .... Grin

I don't think so.  That's not what got her there.  Just the opposite did.  She didn't have a war chest.  She got there with her constituency.

Not sure if naďveté will serve us well.  Smiley


I think you've mistaken her bravato with naivete.  
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Reply #17 - 02/17/19 at 18:32:10
 
oldNslow wrote on 02/17/19 at 13:18:12:
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I look forward to a future of AOCs and Betos.


And you might very well get one. But I don't think you are going to like it much if you do. I don't think it's going to be quite what you imagine it to be. Wink



It'll be far better than what we have now.

We Americans should be ashamed of ourselves  - ashamed that we have people going bankrupt and even dying because they can't afford health care.
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Reply #18 - 02/17/19 at 19:58:15
 
I think Beto's toothy grin will eventually rule him out of the big chair although he'll certainly be important.
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Reply #19 - 02/18/19 at 05:41:39
 
oldNslow wrote on 02/17/19 at 13:18:12:
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I look forward to a future of AOCs and Betos.


And you might very well get one. But I don't think you are going to like it much if you do. I don't think it's going to be quite what you imagine it to be. Wink


A lot of wisdom in this thread from Old. A lot of foolishness from others.
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Reply #20 - 02/18/19 at 13:41:38
 
Not sure if naďveté will serve us well.  


I think you've mistaken her bravato with naivete.  


I think you missed my point.

It was not directed at her, but at those who think she won't be influenced by money.

Hope that helps clear things up, thanks  Smiley
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Reply #21 - 02/18/19 at 13:42:49
 
eau de sauvage wrote on 02/17/19 at 19:58:15:
I think Beto's toothy grin will eventually rule him out of the big chair although he'll certainly be important.


Really.....gee, orange hair didn't stop Trump Undecided
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Reply #22 - 02/18/19 at 14:02:28
 
raydawg wrote on 02/18/19 at 13:42:49:
eau de sauvage wrote on 02/17/19 at 19:58:15:
I think Beto's toothy grin will eventually rule him out of the big chair although he'll certainly be important.


Really.....gee, orange hair didn't stop Trump Undecided

Good point
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Reply #23 - 02/18/19 at 14:08:34
 
T And T Garage wrote on 02/17/19 at 18:32:10:
It'll be far better than what we have now.

Well then SEND ME YOUR ROBBER !!!!!!!!

After all that is what your mentor AOC wants to happen.
‘Everybody get Everything, with out having to work for it’ !
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #24 - 02/18/19 at 14:18:02
 
MnSpring wrote on 02/18/19 at 14:08:34:
T And T Garage wrote on 02/17/19 at 18:32:10:
It'll be far better than what we have now.

Well then SEND ME YOUR ROBBER !!!!!!!!

After all that is what your mentor AOC wants to happen.
‘Everybody get Everything, with out having to work for it’ !


My "robber"?  I think you need to proofread more mn.

But if for some reason you think I'm going to give you my bobber - think again.

You seem to think that any socialist view is "giving sh!t away.  It's not.  Educate yourself.

You know, we've had a lot of snow in the last week here in Chicago, and all these socialist snow plows have been doing a great job!  (see what I did there?)
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Reply #25 - 02/18/19 at 14:37:23
 
T And T Garage wrote on 02/18/19 at 14:18:02:
You seem to think that any socialist view is "giving sh!t away.  It's not.

You're right, It's not, 'giving' something away.
It's, 'TAKING', something away.

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #26 - 02/18/19 at 17:32:49
 
MnSpring wrote on 02/18/19 at 14:37:23:
T And T Garage wrote on 02/18/19 at 14:18:02:
You seem to think that any socialist view is "giving sh!t away.  It's not.

You're right, It's not, 'giving' something away.
It's, 'TAKING', something away.


No, it's not.  You need to find out how this country operates.
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Reply #27 - 02/18/19 at 17:38:00
 
THREAD JACK......THREAD JACK......WARNING, WARNING, WARNING.....  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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