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01/29/19 at 17:36:04
 
I did some looking around and saw several references to lithium batteries as a replacement for the brick of a battery that comes stock. I too would like to eliminate some weight and some bulk so I am looking at going that route.

I have seen references to Ballistic (maybe here or maybe other sites) but with them shutting their doors last month, I will not be going that route.

I have seen people using Antigravity batteries - that seems like a viable option; I am looking at the 8 cell. It's a good size/weight and it has plenty of cold cranking amps (it took several times of reading the product description until I realized that it was 240 CA (not 240 CCA) but even the 192 CCA will be more than enough).

I am currently leaning towards the Shorai. Wondering if anyone has any experience with this battery. All the specs seem good except one - the product listing states that the charge system must not output more than 15.2v but based on the Clymer Service Manual, the LS650 charging system puts out up to 15.5 volts. Anyone know how accurate that is? If my bike wasn't already apart, I would just test it myself.

Here is a link to the Shorai:
https://shoraipower.com/lfx14a1-bs12-p62

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Reply #1 - 01/29/19 at 18:25:18
 
I bought an Earth-X......it is super light and works just fine.

I bought it just about this time of year in 2013.....so it is 6 years old and shows no signs of getting weaker.

(Gyrobob had problems with them and hates EarthX)
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Reply #2 - 01/29/19 at 19:26:29
 
 My experience with Antigravity has been a 33% usability rate.

 Some come dead, some last less than a year.  Some work as intended.
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Reply #3 - 01/30/19 at 05:57:01
 
I've been running a little Antigravity AG-801 for two full seasons now.  Working out great for me.
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Reply #4 - 01/30/19 at 12:30:13
 
I have a Shorai in my sportster for about five years. Top quality , it's always ready go. Just remember if you use a lithium battery you must have a lithium charger. Think the tracker has a BatteryTender brand lithium battery , seems to be of good quality as well. The Shorai are highly rated as well as highly priced !
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Reply #5 - 01/30/19 at 17:51:36
 
I have a Battery Tender Lithium Iron BTL14A240C in my S40 for 2 years now.
I just purchased a WPS Featherweight Lithium Battery 380CCA Hjtx20Ah-Fp-Q for my V11 sport naked. This battery lays on it's side.
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Reply #6 - 01/31/19 at 12:14:12
 
Ruttly wrote on 01/30/19 at 12:30:13:
I have a Shorai in my sportster for about five years. Top quality , it's always ready go. Just remember if you use a lithium battery you must have a lithium charger. Think the tracker has a BatteryTender brand lithium battery , seems to be of good quality as well. The Shorai are highly rated as well as highly priced !


Did you have to make any changes to the charging system / rectifier on the bike or did the stock setup work?

Yes, mounting flexibility - i.e. laying it on it's side - is a big reason I am looking to go lithium.
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Reply #7 - 02/01/19 at 04:05:19
 
No mods needed , plug n play ! Just added foam spacers that came with both batteries to keep them tight in battery box. Cut just under ten pounds on the tracker just changing the battery , even more on the sportster.
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Reply #8 - 03/06/19 at 08:18:42
 
Two out of three earth-x batteries I bought failed.  They swelled up and leaked blue crap all over my FJR-1300 and my RYCA bike.  The owner's attitude essentially was "you did something wrong because our batteries are perfect.  Go pound sand"

I use Firepower brand now.  They are the same battery Honda uses in some of their bikes,.. they are just labeled differently.

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Reply #9 - 03/06/19 at 15:19:58
 
I personally have had bad luck with the lithium batteries.  Ive used 5 on 3 different bikes and all of them started having problems within the first year and a half.  At $150 a pop or more I cant bring myself to buy them anymore.

Ive always used the correct chargers, and even balance chargers and never got great results.

So for now I have just been using Sealed AGM batteries (like the optima batteries).  They have been working great, even if it dies from the heavy load of this thumper compression after a few years the batteries only cost 20-30 bucks so no big deal.

Also, they are about the same size as the lithium battery and not too heavy.  Ill have to peek it, but I think it was this model...

https://www.batterysharks.com/Yuasa-YTX9-BS-p/YTX9-BS_M12-8-120-D.htm?gclid=E...
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Reply #10 - 03/06/19 at 16:35:29
 
These batteries that Honda uses OEM have an internal balancing system so the individual cells are handled independently.  Earth-x batteries are supposed to do that but they tend to swell up pop, spewing blue stuff all over.
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Reply #11 - 03/06/19 at 17:10:38
 
I wanted to make a correction,

Actually this is the battery I have been using.  Even smaller, but its been working good.  Grin

I havent had to at all, but I dont mind jump starting my bike down a hill if needed, some people aint gonna take that chance.  But like I said, its been fine for over a year now. I wanted minimal size and weight, but tired of expensive lithium failures. My brothers been using his for 3 years now, still cranking.

I keep it on a tender when sitting.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/SigmasTek-ST5L-BS-Battery-Replacement/684786640
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Reply #12 - 03/07/19 at 12:08:58
 
If you're thinking of changing to a lithium ion battery you might want to think about changing your regulator/rectifier to this:
https://shop.revivalcycles.com/lifepo4-lithium-battery-optimized-mosfet-regul...
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Reply #13 - 03/07/19 at 12:12:52
 
Sorry it cut the end off the link!!!
Revival Cycles - lithium optimised reg/rectifier.
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Reply #14 - 03/07/19 at 12:18:15
 
Jonty03 wrote on 03/07/19 at 12:12:52:
Sorry it cut the end off the link!!!
Revival Cycles - lithium optimised reg/rectifier.

If you use the hyperlink button, it fixes that issue.
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