Stew......if somebody in this group starts dropping their bike - don't be surprised if I turn around and start going the other way!  



I'm getting my camera ready for some serious money on "America's Funniest Video"

Now Dave, none of them dropped dead on you from heart failure -- that is your real nightmare that you haven't fully articulated out loud yet.

Motorcycle inspectors had to go to a required class this winter, where they were flat arsed TOLD to fail all motorcycles carrying noisy non-standard exhaust systems or they will lose their inspection license.

First place I approached for an inspection simply turned me away, saying "I could hear you coming, your exhaust system is leaking and your muffler is FAR too noisy, bad baffles or drilled baffles or something is non-standard with your muffler.

I got a bit indignant at that, but when I got the muffler off to reapply the heat proof joint cement again I actually  poured a pound or so of crumbled corroded eaten up baffle material out of the front chamber of the sporty muffler.   He was right.  The baffles were shot.

Phone priced a used sporty muffler or two at the shops I bought this one from, and the service guys who peddle the take offs were spending time voluntarily telling me the model and year of the Harley the mufflers belonged to.  

Guess why they are doing that .....    I then looked up the letter of the law, which has NOT CHANGED its wording one jot or iota, but the original wording can be interpreted to say what the boys in DOT Inspection are trying to administratively change the motorcycle noise regs to say.

Got a good conversation from one of the service guys and there is a place in Lumberton that is more lenient on noisy mufflers, but the owner of the Savage in question says HER bike is going to be completely legal so it can be sold easily when the time comes ....   (as she does this she points over towards the stock Savage muffler propped up over in the corner of the garage by the radial arm saw).

I putt putt putt now instead of roaring like a Savage is supposed to do.   I had removed the original bracketry and heat shield mount from the OEM rig because I had ground most of it off up in the mountains, so I kept some of the Harley rig and put together a somewhat tighter package together using the stock can.   I used a regular stainless steel muffler camp off a car, as I am tired of the Hurley bike clamps not locking the sliding diameters together securely.

ALSO, check the arm the muffler mounts to.  Mine wobbled up and down due to simple wear over the years and required a new set of non-stretched non-worn high strength bolts and a hardened steel star washer to bite into the existing worn aluminum and shiny steel to get the muffler to stay steady and quit flexing the joint apart each year.

Lancer, the law as written supports them if you interpret the words like a liberal tree hugging weenie would do it.

Interpretation of a law is the responsibility of DOT and NC law enforcement, and they are in agreement acting supposedly to cut down on noisy bikes in Fayetteville NC.   I don't like it, nor do I like what shooting range regulations are doing to the local gun ranges, but what can you really do about any of it?

90 db isn't very much noise, BTW.   If somebody hit our savages with a DB meter off idle we would FAIL that test every time.   A big single is noisy, it is ......

The law is written by legislature in very generalistic terms.  The test procedures to enforce that law are written by DOT Inspection Administration.

I also feel they are unfortunately encouraging STEALERSHIP Safety Inspectors to ravage normal folks for the cost of new exhaust systems.

This is not the first time this shite has come down the pike in NC --- when I was living in Charlotte back in the 70's they did this shite back then and bikers were swapping stock exhaust systems on and off their bikes to get inspection each year.

so

OldFeller , how about out of towners , are we headed for trouble if we come visit ?

Yea , never let the inspector get a hand on your throttle , under penalty of a wack on the back of the hand  ...
or just a polite

Don't touch my bike and everything will be alright !  

everybody has a !! MEAN !! face if need arises ,  



 

MMRanch wrote on 04/22/19 at 11:29:50:




I have never heard of street cops doing silly things, just the DOT inspectors.    I found an inspection place that still uses reason (who shall remain a secret) but they are already somewhat "rough and ready" and already have had some issues with the NC Inspection Administration.

NC apparently sends in DOT shills to get inspections, armed with minor to major non-conformances on the bike that the inspection people at the business are supposed to test for and catch and fail you over.   This is entrapment, pure and simple.

Nevermind, I found your plans a couple of pages back ......


stewmills wrote on 04/19/19 at 08:19:20: