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Visa Overstay
01/02/19 at 10:14:44
 
In the USA, DHS says 739,000 total visas in 2016
Where where 628,799 were ‘over stays’.
Other sights have reported 600,000 to 700,000,
in years 16/17 and 18 estimate.

From the DHS:
“…Identifying aliens who overstay their authorized periods of stay is important for national security, public safety, immigration enforcement, and processing applications for immigration benefits,” the DHS report noted.
The document emphasized that DHS will continue to develop biographical and biometric data on travelers to improve the tracking and deportation of violators who remain in the U.S. despite being expected to leave.…”


(Continue to develop, but not do anything ?)

From the Washington Examiner:“…The Department of Homeland Security is catching less than 1 percent of people whose U.S. entry visas have expired, according to a new audit….”

Found this from the UK: "…Immigration minister Brandon Lewis said: “These operations show that we will not tolerate people living and working illegally in the UK. Illegal working cheats the taxpayer, has a negative impact on the wages of lawful workers and allows rogue employers to undercut legitimate businesses.  “Those unscrupulous landlords flout the rules by knowingly renting property to illegal migrants as an easy source of profit,” he added.…”
Gee where is Hovis, jumping yup and down about how bad the UK is.
(I know, tt can take his place)

Spending time, looking for how other Countries, ‘catch’, Overstays. Cannot find any. Seem all countries have the problem. (Gee so much for the UL’s cry of, ‘be like a Civilized Nation’)

Solutions ?  Implant/s, Facial Recognition, scan Passport every so often, (with a photo being taking just like a ATM), ENFORCEMENT, of the current law, effort made to CATCH, the overstays.  

A Idea: Perhaps, come into this country. Finger print, and Face scan.
Every crime, a fingerprint and face scan, compared with the ‘’entry’’ file.
If no ‘entry’ recorded, (and no BC), that person Sneaked in !
Then deportation. (and no, legal re-entry)
(That alone would have SAVED the life of the Police Officer recently shot in cold blood)
IF their is a ‘entry’ recorded, Deportation on the recorded crime, with no re-entry, forever.

This would require a City/County/State to corporate with ICE/BP/etc.
And if the City/County/State does not.
Then they have chosen to get, NO, Money from the Fed Gov.

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Re: Visa Overstay
Reply #1 - 01/02/19 at 10:59:29
 
MnSpring wrote on 01/02/19 at 10:14:44:
In the USA, DHS says 739,000 total visas in 2016
Where where 628,799 were ‘over stays’.
Other sights have reported 600,000 to 700,000,
in years 16/17 and 18 estimate.

From the DHS:
“…Identifying aliens who overstay their authorized periods of stay is important for national security, public safety, immigration enforcement, and processing applications for immigration benefits,” the DHS report noted.
The document emphasized that DHS will continue to develop biographical and biometric data on travelers to improve the tracking and deportation of violators who remain in the U.S. despite being expected to leave.…”


(Continue to develop, but not do anything ?)

From the Washington Examiner:“…The Department of Homeland Security is catching less than 1 percent of people whose U.S. entry visas have expired, according to a new audit….”

Found this from the UK: "…Immigration minister Brandon Lewis said: “These operations show that we will not tolerate people living and working illegally in the UK. Illegal working cheats the taxpayer, has a negative impact on the wages of lawful workers and allows rogue employers to undercut legitimate businesses.  “Those unscrupulous landlords flout the rules by knowingly renting property to illegal migrants as an easy source of profit,” he added.…”
Gee where is Hovis, jumping yup and down about how bad the UK is.
(I know, tt can take his place)

Spending time, looking for how other Countries, ‘catch’, Overstays. Cannot find any. Seem all countries have the problem. (Gee so much for the UL’s cry of, ‘be like a Civilized Nation’)

Solutions ?  Implant/s, Facial Recognition, scan Passport every so often, (with a photo being taking just like a ATM), ENFORCEMENT, of the current law, effort made to CATCH, the overstays.  

BWAAAHAAHAAHAAAAAA!!!!!

A Idea: Perhaps, come into this country. Finger print, and Face scan.
Every crime, a fingerprint and face scan, compared with the ‘’entry’’ file.
If no ‘entry’ recorded, (and no BC), that person Sneaked in !
Then deportation. (and no, legal re-entry)
(That alone would have SAVED the life of the Police Officer recently shot in cold blood)
IF their is a ‘entry’ recorded, Deportation on the recorded crime, with no re-entry, forever.

This would require a City/County/State to corporate with ICE/BP/etc.
And if the City/County/State does not.
Then they have chosen to get, NO, Money from the Fed Gov.



What the hell is your point here mn??
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Re: Visa Overstay
Reply #2 - 01/02/19 at 12:02:30
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 10:59:29:
What the hell is your point here mn??

Did you miss this ?
(Or deliberately ignored it)

thumperclone wrote on 12/31/18 at 06:33:23:
a wall will not stop those who over stay their visa's


So, what would be your suggestion,
or thing/way to lesson the problem ?


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Re: Visa Overstay
Reply #3 - 01/02/19 at 12:29:06
 
MnSpring wrote on 01/02/19 at 12:02:30:


[color=#0000ff]thumperclone wrote on 12/31/18 at 06:33:23:
a wall will not stop those who over stay their visa's


So, what would be your suggestion,
or thing/way to lesson the problem ?



Throwing billions at a wall... Maybe their visa's will stick to it. Grin
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Re: Visa Overstay
Reply #4 - 01/02/19 at 13:49:53
 
FUKKING IDIOT,
As IF the majority of illegals ever had a visa,,
But nice try
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Reply #5 - 01/02/19 at 13:58:53
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/02/19 at 13:49:53:
FUKKING IDIOT,
As IF the majority of illegals ever had a visa,,
But nice try



I just relish in the fact that you blame me for "destroying the Tall Table".  

Look at your own posts you pathetic hypocrite.
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Re: Visa Overstay
Reply #6 - 01/02/19 at 14:40:29
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/02/19 at 13:49:53:
FUKKING IDIOT,
As IF the majority of illegals ever had a visa,,
But nice try



yeah!!! don't you know they are ALL MOSTLY  evil drug dealers and murders and and and ......

JOG, get your head out of your a$$, if you can, it's been up there WAY too long and you're running out of air.  

I'm sorry I can't offer you a boogieman to scare your head out of your a$$....  but you might like reality if you get to catch some of this fresh REAL air as opposed to your own a$$ smell....  



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Reply #7 - 01/02/19 at 16:21:24
 

"Solutions ?  Implant/s, Facial Recognition, scan Passport every so often, (with a photo being taking just like a ATM), ENFORCEMENT, of the current law, effort made to CATCH, the overstays."

 I agree that more modern methods could be implemented to monitor the movement of Visa Overstays other than the self-check in system.  

 There will be backlash over the implant idea for sure, but as I see it there is no written protections for non-citizens regarding accountability.  Also as far as I know there's limited Constitutional protection, for instance the 2nd typically doesn't apply, yet the 4th usually does.  

 It may be messy in court regarding initial implantation but the technology does exist to at least make a starting point.
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Reply #8 - 01/02/19 at 16:24:24
 
LostArtist wrote on 01/02/19 at 14:40:29:
yeah!!! don't you know they are ALL MOSTLY  evil drug dealers and murders and and and ......

Can you say,
How many illegal’s, (just from Mexico),
came to this Nation,
and KILLED, Citizens of THIS NATION ?
How many illegal’s, (just from Mexico),
came to this Nation,
and SET FIRES, in this NATION ?
How many States, PROTECT,
that is PROTECT ANY WAY THEY CAN.
The people that do those things ?

Yea, they are not, 'MOSTLY',
Yet wouldn't it be prudent to not, include people that are inclined to do those things ?




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Reply #9 - 01/02/19 at 16:43:24
 
MnSpring wrote on 01/02/19 at 16:24:24:
LostArtist wrote on 01/02/19 at 14:40:29:
yeah!!! don't you know they are ALL MOSTLY  evil drug dealers and murders and and and ......

Can you say,
How many illegal’s, (just from Mexico),
came to this Nation,
and KILLED, Citizens of THIS NATION ?

Can you?

How many illegal’s, (just from Mexico),
came to this Nation,
and SET FIRES, in this NATION ?

Can you?

How many States, PROTECT,
that is PROTECT ANY WAY THEY CAN.
The people that do those things ?

Yeah you moron - states are protecting murderers.  Seriously, we're not all as gullible and ignorant as you.

Yea, they are not, 'MOSTLY',
Yet wouldn't it be prudent to not, include people that are inclined to do those things ?

And to think - you're heavily involved in the gun trade.

Scary.
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Reply #10 - 01/02/19 at 17:05:22
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 13:58:53:
just relish in the fact that you blame me for "destroying the Tall Table".  

I have been here for a WHOLE LOT LESS Time that then many others.
YET,
" but once again, you're wrong."
BY YOU !!!!!!!!  In  VERY  Frequent Posts !!!!!!!
HAS, made a very negative impact on this forum.

Not to mention the very NEGATIVE, and 'Crap AZZ' posts, YOU HAVE MADE, about, "You Are A  ..."

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Reply #11 - 01/02/19 at 17:12:46
 
MnSpring wrote on 01/02/19 at 17:05:22:
T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 13:58:53:
just relish in the fact that you blame me for "destroying the Tall Table".  

I have been here for a WHOLE LOT LESS Time that then many others.
YET,
" but once again, you're wrong."
BY YOU !!!!!!!!  In  VERY  Frequent Posts !!!!!!!
HAS, made a very negative impact on this forum.

Not to mention the very NEGATIVE, and 'Crap AZZ' posts, YOU HAVE MADE, about, "You Are A  ..."



LOL - you're a joke mn.  Why not use more wacky text effects and laughing emojis?

The only thing I did to this little forum is shine a light on the hypocrisy that is the conservative of today.

I've shown posts from long before I was on here that the likes of jog and web were berating (look that word up if you need to) anyone with an opposing viewpoint.  In fact - both of them wrote me PMs to try and intimidate me.

You, on the other hand, have done yourself in with your idiotic posts and lack of education in grammar and spelling.  You make yourself look like an idiot, you don't need any help from me.  Every single one of your posts looks like a ransom note!  LOL
You keep up the great work!
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Reply #12 - 01/02/19 at 17:18:37
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 17:12:46:
You keep up the great work!  

THANK you You so Much !!!!!!


Grin   Grin   Grin   Grin   Grin   Grin  
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Re: Visa Overstay
Reply #13 - 01/02/19 at 17:21:07
 
MnSpring wrote on 01/02/19 at 17:18:37:
T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 17:12:46:
You keep up the great work!  

THANK you You so Much !!!!!!


Grin   Grin   Grin   Grin   Grin   Grin  


Leave it to you to accept encouragement to continue to be an idiot.
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Reply #14 - 01/02/19 at 17:34:54
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 17:21:07:
Leave it to you to accept encouragement to continue to be an idiot.


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