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Re: TDS
Reply #30 - 01/02/19 at 17:00:11
 
MnSpring wrote on 01/02/19 at 16:55:04:
T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 16:45:37:
You are a liar mn.  So yeah - shut up.

Really, Tell me about them  LOLOLOOOLOLOL

To bad you can't handle the TRUTH,
When Cenk Uygur TELLS YOU,
to say otherwise.


Here you go, liar:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1545764356/60

"About 85,000 per year, of ‘refugees’ are brought in."

That's a lie.

Caught you.  You're a liar.
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Reply #31 - 01/02/19 at 17:02:02
 
MnSpring wrote on 01/02/19 at 16:55:04:
T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 16:45:37:
You are a liar mn.  So yeah - shut up.

Really, Tell me about them  LOLOLOOOLOLOL

To bad you can't handle the TRUTH,
When Cenk Uygur TELLS YOU,
to say otherwise.


And pretty much this entire post:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1544651198

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Reply #32 - 01/02/19 at 17:03:21
 
Eegore wrote on 01/02/19 at 16:30:22:
 "Another question nobody here will answer:   By removing the individual mandate we have opened the door for insurance companies to impose pre-existing coverage denial.  What part of pre-existing conditions should be re-implemented into our healthcare system?


"why would you want to do that? "

 That's my question.  The people that I have questioned that are pro-absolute removal of the ACA (Obamacare) are glad the individual-mandate has been removed, yet it has opened the door for pre-existing coverage denial.  So why are people ok with this?  What part of allowing pre-existing coverage denial is ok, and why is the process being used now ok?

 As I have stated before absolutely everyone I have asked about this say they dislike Obama or Hillary and that's pretty much where the conversation revolves and never addresses actual medical care.  Disliking Obama is reason enough to allow pre-existing condition denial?  If so just man-up and say it.

 Another question along these line is why do people consistently leave out "Corporate" from the tax cuts statement?  



from what I've heard, the argument is that if you regulate INS companies that the have to cover pre-exisiting conditions, you are automatically inflating insurance cost on the rest that don't have pre-existing conditions, and THAT'S NO FAIR!!!!  how dare you make them pay for someone else!!!  

or some such BS that doesn't understand the point of INS.  

oh, and you're dreaming if you think anyone is actually going to address the actual cost of healthcare. they LOVE charging $10 for a Halls Cough drop.  

it's just another way to divide us into a class based society, the haves and the have-nots, you know, the noble and the serfs just like the GOOD OLD DAYS!
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Reply #33 - 01/02/19 at 17:07:05
 
MnSpring wrote on 01/02/19 at 16:55:04:
T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 16:45:37:
You are a liar mn.  So yeah - shut up.

Really, Tell me about them  LOLOLOOOLOLOL

To bad you can't handle the TRUTH,
When Cenk Uygur TELLS YOU,
to say otherwise.


Here's another, liar:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1546120020

Post 2 from you.

"tt,  you need to FOIA,
Mollie Tibbetts’s mom, Laura Calderwood’s
Tax Return.

Then you will see, exactly how much money,
the UL part of the DNC has paid her !"

Lying with no proof that she was "paid off".

Pathetic.  You just want her to be.

Seems you're the one that can't handle (properly spelled) the truth mn.
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Reply #34 - 01/02/19 at 17:14:12
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 17:00:11:
Here you go, liar:

OH,  QUOTING,  a  UL  Web Site ?

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Re: TDS
Reply #35 - 01/02/19 at 17:15:03
 
Like I said mn - your posts make you look silly.

You don't need any help from me.

Keep up the great work.
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Reply #36 - 01/02/19 at 17:15:53
 
I notice you didn't comment on the immigrant number lie I caught you in.

How about that?
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Reply #37 - 01/02/19 at 17:23:39
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 17:15:53:
I notice you didn't comment on the immigrant number lie I caught you in.   How about that?

Really,  REALLY ?????
A Number from a web site,  YOU  LOVE,
REALLY ?

What a DFI.

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #38 - 01/02/19 at 17:26:15
 
MnSpring wrote on 01/02/19 at 17:23:39:
T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 17:15:53:
I notice you didn't comment on the immigrant number lie I caught you in.   How about that?

Really,  REALLY ?????
A Number from a web site,  YOU  LOVE,
REALLY ?

What a DFI.

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin




You lied mn.  Plain and simple.

You.  Are.  A. Liar.

Own it.
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Reply #39 - 01/02/19 at 17:43:44
 
T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 17:26:15:
You.  Are.  A. Liar..

Rather apparent,  you do just not  understand !!!!!

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Reply #40 - 01/02/19 at 17:52:30
 
[quote author=4A695477756E6960070 link=1546040686/30#39 date=1546479824]T And T Garage wrote on 01/02/19 at 17:26:15:
You.  Are.  A. Liar..

Well DFI, their ys go.
SPIN  SPIN  SPIN.
I am going to eat some food,
then going to read a book,
then go to sleep.

YOU tt,  Spin, Spin, Spin.

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Reply #41 - 01/02/19 at 21:32:26
 

"oh, and you're dreaming if you think anyone is actually going to address the actual cost of healthcare. they LOVE charging $10 for a Halls Cough drop.  

it's just another way to divide us into a class based society, the haves and the have-nots, you know, the noble and the serfs just like the GOOD OLD DAYS! "


 I worked in a medical center for over a decade.  People discuss cost of healthcare all the time.

 I talk to people all the time about the "$10 cough drop" by using the "warm blanket" as an example.  For instance a warm blanket costs about $35, which is absolutely ridiculous.  Here's why:

 Regulation prohibits the medical center to launder on-site so laundry is contracted.  A few dollars for that, and a few dollars for the distribution tech, the laundry staff member, the contract supervisor and the accounts personnel to get that blanket to and from a laundry service.

 Regulation prohibits the blanket from being brought directly from the loading dock/receiving to the department as the blanket must have a verifiable sanitation record thus creating a chain of custody of sorts.  A few dollars for sterile processing to verify safety, log and place the blanket into the approved racks, a few dollars for the central stores staff to prepare it for distribution.

 Central Distribution requests blankets be stocked in the ED as the system shows low stock.  Laundry sends it to the ED where it undergoes another sanitation verification.  A few dollars for the Central Distribution tech, the auditor, and the laundry staff and sterile processing verification.

 The blanket is taken to a patient, a few dollars for the triage staff to check off on the blanket temperature, a few dollars for Biomed staff to calibrate and check daily the blanket warmer temp, a few dollars for the RN charting that the blanket was "clean and at safe temp" and a few dollars for all that to be collected compiled and stored for audit.

 All of this because someone sued over a dirty blanket, and someone else sued over a too-hot blanket that burned them.
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Reply #42 - 01/03/19 at 13:26:02
 
Eegore wrote on 01/02/19 at 21:32:26:

"oh, and you're dreaming if you think anyone is actually going to address the actual cost of healthcare. they LOVE charging $10 for a Halls Cough drop.  

it's just another way to divide us into a class based society, the haves and the have-nots, you know, the noble and the serfs just like the GOOD OLD DAYS! "


 I worked in a medical center for over a decade.  People discuss cost of healthcare all the time.

 I talk to people all the time about the "$10 cough drop" by using the "warm blanket" as an example.  For instance a warm blanket costs about $35, which is absolutely ridiculous.  Here's why:

 Regulation prohibits the medical center to launder on-site so laundry is contracted.  A few dollars for that, and a few dollars for the distribution tech, the laundry staff member, the contract supervisor and the accounts personnel to get that blanket to and from a laundry service.

 Regulation prohibits the blanket from being brought directly from the loading dock/receiving to the department as the blanket must have a verifiable sanitation record thus creating a chain of custody of sorts.  A few dollars for sterile processing to verify safety, log and place the blanket into the approved racks, a few dollars for the central stores staff to prepare it for distribution.

 Central Distribution requests blankets be stocked in the ED as the system shows low stock.  Laundry sends it to the ED where it undergoes another sanitation verification.  A few dollars for the Central Distribution tech, the auditor, and the laundry staff and sterile processing verification.

 The blanket is taken to a patient, a few dollars for the triage staff to check off on the blanket temperature, a few dollars for Biomed staff to calibrate and check daily the blanket warmer temp, a few dollars for the RN charting that the blanket was "clean and at safe temp" and a few dollars for all that to be collected compiled and stored for audit.

 All of this because someone sued over a dirty blanket, and someone else sued over a too-hot blanket that burned them.



yeah, none of you people count though....
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Reply #43 - 01/03/19 at 16:52:51
 
"yeah, none of you people count though.... "

 I don't agree with that.  I understand where its easy to see it that way from the outside looking in, but the medical care situation in the US is very co-dependent both economically and point-of-care.

 The fact that the high-paying jobs require patients, and the resolution of patient needs creates a huge amount of leverage for those not in the upper echelon, but that's a topic for another thread.
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Reply #44 - 01/04/19 at 15:16:54
 
Eegore wrote on 01/03/19 at 16:52:51:
"yeah, none of you people count though.... "

 I don't agree with that.  I understand where its easy to see it that way from the outside looking in, but the medical care situation in the US is very co-dependent both economically and point-of-care.

 The fact that the high-paying jobs require patients, and the resolution of patient needs creates a huge amount of leverage for those not in the upper echelon, but that's a topic for another thread.



no I mean that NONE OF YOU talking about it are making decisions at a national level, you aren't regulators, or lawmakers or even lobbyists....  Are you even in the board rooms or shareholder meetings talking like that?  You aren't in investor meetings, you aren't at the bargaining table to negotiate....  and even so, you're blaming a burned patient or someone who potentially got an infection from a dirty blanket...
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