justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/13/18 at 18:53:20:



Your posts have gotten to the point of obvious desperation.

Eegore wrote on 12/14/18 at 07:13:48:

 If some idiot boss commits a crime at a company and gets away with it that doesn't mean every employee and all branches and budgetary allocations should be affected

Would another way to say that be: “Condemning the, whole, for the actions of a ‘few’.”

Or yet another way: "That ‘gun’ was used to shoot up that ….., so all ‘guns’ like that need to be banned”

Or still another: “That knuckle dragging Neanderthal was brandishing a gun, so all gun owners are knuckle dragging Neanderthals”

Eegore wrote on 12/14/18 at 13:36:17:

 Very similar to holding an entire agency accountable for the actions of a few

So EPA, has between 15/17 Thousand people,
with a Budget of 8 MILLION a year.
https://www.epa.gov/planandbudget/budget

So their are, 316 million, 180 million, 133  Million,
Gun Owners, depending on what place you look.
(Left or Right leaning places)

So, using, ONLY, 133 MILLION, gun owners, vs 20 THOUSAND EPA people.
What is that, (roughly)  ?????????????????????

Now ONE, gun owner does something stupid,
That is ONE, out of the Lowest figure, of 133 MILLION.

Now One, (most probably 5 to 10 +++ were involved in any decision)
To KILL, a river for 50 + years, and say, ‘Opps’.
Is, 5 people out of the Highest, Very High amount of 18,000 people.
What is that, (Roughly)  ???????????????????????

Yet it is Perfectly OK, to condemn ALL  Gun Owners,
for the actions of a very, Very, VERY !!!!! few.

Yet, it is wrong to condemn, the actions,
Of, the EPA,
(Who are told by a previous administration, their $hit does Not Stink)
For  KILLING  a River, and ALL around it.)

Got it !

Eegore wrote on 12/15/18 at 17:00:04:


I believe, that is another, 'Good', thing Trump has done.

Eegore wrote on 12/15/18 at 17:30:01:

 The EPA did not kill a river, a group of people within it did.  

A-Yep understand that !

Just as not all gun owners kill people with them, just a group of people within it do.  

A-Yep, understand that.

Yet, it is ALL, gun owners, that are responsible for the actions of 1.
And it is, ONLY 1, EPA, who is responsible, ONLY, for the actions of him/her.

(ACCORDING TO THE F.D.S.)

Please explain your POV.
WHY,
A 'Group', says, " You ALL  Are responsible, for the actions of ALL"
Yet only one is responsible  for the actions in the,  (for example, KILLING  of a River), in the other thing".

Eegore wrote on 12/15/18 at 18:12:57:

 Please explain in your point of view how holding an EPA staff member in Alaska taking water samples should be held accountable for the dead river.

First it's NOT  Alaska, and YOU  KNOW That!
And it is,  NOT, ' taking water samples', that is discussed.
And you KNOW That !

Explain, why ‘tt’, and friends/pets, say ALL  Gun Owners, are responsible for ALL, gun crimes !

And the EPA is NOT, responsible, for the attitude, 'That their $hit does NOT  Stink:
BECAUSE, they were  TOLD THAT, by a Previous administration.

It's called:
 PICK ONE
You can NOT have both ways.  
PICK ONE

If the UL's say ALL  Gun owners are Responsible
(all 133  MILLION)
Then it is, ALL  EPA, Employees are  Responsible
(All 20 Thousand)

It cannot be:
One can, the other cannot !

Eegore wrote on 12/16/18 at 00:27:49:

The entirety of the EPA staff should not be held accountable for the crime of a few EPA staff.

What was that,  Pocahontas Warren  said ?
“…Rules matter, and our government - not just individuals within the government, but the government itself - has systematically discriminated against Black people in this country…”

(Look it up yourself tt, or are you to LAZY to ?)

So I guess, the EPA guy/gal in Barrow Alaska, testing water samples.
IS, responsible for, KILLING  a River.
(According to Warren)

NOT every gun owner is prosecuted for the crimes of one gun owner,

Nop.  And they are not, because, you, changed the:
Being Responsible to, Being Prosecuted.

The UL, Socialistic, Progressives, every chance they get, say ,
‘ Gun Owners are Responsible for that crime’
‘ the 2nd Adm is responsible for that crime '
‘ The NRA is responsible for that crime '

Yes, ‘I Know’, that blanket statements, describing all of a group,
on the actions of a few or one of the group,
is certainly not a accurate description of the whole group.

Yet wonder why such a staunch defense, of a Government Agency, when a blanket statement is made, about what that agency is like, or what it has done, or what it is responsible for.
Especially when Warren says they ARE !

And only the people,
that are IN a,
‘gun group’, defend that group.

So now, will I say again ?
”taking the overbearing, self centered, untouchable God like attitude, OUT of the EPA"
In a heartbeat.  And will continue to do so, just as the UL’s continue to say:
‘ that person used a gun in …, so we need to ban all guns '

Interesting, why in 8 years of a past POTUS,
their were Many complaints about the EPA.
And last two years, have not heard any ?