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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Not that it matters 12/09/18 at 07:26:39 https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2018/12/08/climate-change-trump-... https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2018/12/08/climate-change-trump-...
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Re: Not that it matters
Reply #1 - 12/09/18 at 07:57:03

Did I read that, RIGHT !

“…Claiming that you “believe” in climate change is useless without action….”

“… China, UP 1.7%, … India UP 4.6% … E.U. UP 1.5% … France UP 3.6% …”

‘ . The USA, DOWN, 2.7%, and DOWN 4.5% in large power plants omissions . ’

Once again:
“…Claiming that you “believe” in climate change is useless without action…”

So when someone says they do not believe the, HYPE,
And know the HYPE, is just their to put money in someones pockets.
Do NOT, throw, ’tires in the ditch’.

And this is from a, Left of center paper.

Hmmmmm, perhaps the TDS people,
who Flamed the POTUS,
for NOT Giving Millions of dollars to promises of,
Paris Agreement and G20.
Want to say, ’they were wrong’, now.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Na, they will just, SPIN.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Not that it matters Reply #2 - 12/09/18 at 08:32:04 That Paris accord is sure working out. Macron is hiding. Eiffel tower Closed.. Trump saved us from wasted money and stupidass regulations. Folks, all your Ohhh, so Proper Fake outrage and Virtue signaling is old. Quit it.
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Re: Not that it matters
Reply #3 - 12/09/18 at 10:32:03

The question I have is how did these power plants create lower emissions almost overnight?

The process for developing, then implementing the physical alterations for emission reduction typically takes years. So is the idea that our emissions reductions are by company choice, not by regulatory or tax incentive and that those emission reductions happened in two years?

Or is it that emission reduction is a product of years of regulatory influence and tax incentive that is now showing results because the physical changes to factories and power generation structures is now in place and is undergoing a refinement process?

I agree that we do more for environmental protection, but we also have been out of the international agreements for a short period of time. What we remove ourselves from now shouldn't show up in environmental testing for another decade right?

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MnSpring Serious Thumper Offline Younger than most people my age. Posts: 8996 Minn Gender:	Re: Not that it matters Reply #4 - 12/09/18 at 12:01:06 Could it possibly be, Burning 'Clean' Coal, which the last POTUS did NOT allow.
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 5817 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: Not that it matters Reply #5 - 12/09/18 at 13:56:57 MnSpring wrote on 12/09/18 at 12:01:06: Could it possibly be, Burning 'Clean' Coal, which the last POTUS did NOT allow. you need new sources the coal was/ is allowed the emissions were to be cleaned up before release coal companies bitched and moaned, some shut down some updated their process
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Re: Not that it matters
Reply #6 - 12/09/18 at 15:20:19

Yeah, WHY??

When the President signed the Executive Order designating 1.7 million acres of land in southwest Utah as the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument, his action placed the area off limits to mineral extraction and development.

The New York Times reported that the monument encloses the largest coal field in the nation, the Kaiparowitz Plateau, which contains at least 7 billion tons of coal worth over $1 TRILLION.

Kentucky-based company Andalux Resources, which holds leases on 3,400 acres in the area, was planning to open a huge operation (underground, not strip mining) that would have generated 1,000 jobs, $1 million in annual revenue for Kane County, and at least $10 million a year in state and federal taxes, according to the New York Times. Folks living in the area wore black arm bands the day o the signing - but Clinton didn't see them. He chose to make his announcement in a neighboring state. WHY?

The FACT is
That Ohhh so TOXIC CO2 is DOWN in America, in spite of Bernie and Al flying everywhere. The other places where it's Up, AFTER they signed the agreement, which came AFTER Frikken Decades of Chikkin Little screaming about how the sky is falling.
So, you have to agree
Trump did no harm by not signing.
WE are down.
The places that signed on?
Look at France.
The Economic CONSEQUENCES for trying to adopt policies that work with the
IDIOTIC FEAR of CO2 is destructive to the lives of the people.
WayCup.

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