This is very troubling.
I won’t bias or taint anyone’s reading of this story, but I would sure appreciate what your general observation, feeling is based upon reading its contents......

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/27/world/asia/indonesia-lion-air-crash-.amp.html

From a pilot's prospective, the historic difference between an Airbus and a Boeing airframe was that Airbus is FBW (fly-by-wire) and the Boeing was "direct" hydraulic control. An Airbus pilot makes requests of pitch, roll and yaw to the aircraft systems via traditional inputs (yoke and rudder) and the flight computers decide how to, or even if, the requests can be complied. Boeing pilots always felt as though they were flying the aircraft.

No more. MCAS is "augmenting" pilot input and makes it own choices as to trim and throttle settings. From what I have read, Lion Air pilots were not adequately trained on the new MCAS and as a result found themselves fighting with the aircraft computer for control of the aircraft.

If a pilot can't safely override the system, why have a flight crew on board? Oh, that is the plan.

MCAS must have been written by microsoft.
To fix the problem, turn off electricity.
Yeah, on a fly by wire system... turn off electricity.
There must've been a small note somewhere... 'and kiss your a$$ goodbye'

This plane should never have left the factory.
Profit should never supersede safety.

The pilot is ultimately in control.  :'(

Or he's just a glorified passenger.
Tesla, with wings.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/28/18 at 14:36:29:


Not even close Jog.
You can never know the variables that come at you once you close the doors and taxi away, never.
Sully was a GREAT example re: human factor.
IA, will never be "human" you just have to wrap EVERYTHING around that understanding, computers do NOT reasoning with "senses"  

JOG,
In today's world maybe but it shouldn't be.
A lot of today's pilots can type 45 words a minute but can't fly worth a darn.
Computers fail. And then what. Look up Air France 447. That says it all. Three "experienced" pilots who flew their aircraft into the ocean because not one of them could analyze the problem. Any competent flight instructor would have saved the day.
That accident shook up the aviation training industry, however not enough has changed because the industry is on course, and financial factors rule.
Also, look up the very first Airbus crash. The poor Air France captain was thrown to the dogs for political and of course financial reasons. The bottom line, Airbus aircraft are flown from the ground. Boeing seems to be following on its heels., sadly. One thing is certain Newton's laws of motion are immutable and aircraft no matter how sophisticated still obey those rules.

Sorry for the rant but I feel very strongly about this issue as a pilot and instructor.

norm92de wrote on 11/28/18 at 17:04:05:


MD80 ring a bell?

I got to Boeing about the time the old timers were packing it in.....
I heard the stuff from them directly, tho most of it flew over my head (no pun intended).
Guys who worked up the line, from shop floor, to level 4, 5, management,  predicted this new "leadership" from OUTSIDE Washington, would change how aircraft were made.

It is sad, Boeing IS...... the coke of soft drinks.
When you say airplane, you think of Boeing.