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10/23/18 at 09:45:47
 
What is SCREAMING at me is this question/observation......

If the Mueller investigation had found any factual evidence to Trump, and Russia, OR, any proof that Trump tried to interfere in this investigation, other than publicly calling it a witch hunt, etc....

I would bet the ranch on it, that it would have leaked out by now.
Which, leads me to believe none exist......

However, if it does, and he ( Mueller)  withheld it till after the midterm vote, he is going to get clobbered, by the liberals UNLESS they win BIG, which just doesn't appear to be the case at the moment......

I still believe Comey, cost Hillary, with his move to reopen the investigation so close to the election, lots of people were undecided because of the poor choices, I think that ambivalence is still present, and the last minute voters will decide it again.
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Reply #1 - 10/23/18 at 10:01:20
 
Good point. Everything else leaked so why not this? It's because there's nothing to leak. Same with the Kavanaugh FBI investigation, nothing leaked cause there was nothing to leak.

But I question your other observation. Did anyone really change their vote on Hilary?
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Reply #2 - 10/23/18 at 11:13:36
 
Well Web....
I don’t know as fact if the Comey surprise changed votes re: Hillary, however, using the law of averages, I believe it would be wiser to lay your money on a 50/50 split, than the “undecided” going all in for Trump.

I believe the “handicapping” of determining the odds would then favor Trump, as he was the lessor known commodity of the two.
Hillary could never break away from her negativite ratings, never, in two attempts, with two different opponents with major differences in philosophical foundations.

You factor in her bolstering, by the mainstream media, academia, Hollywood/entertainment industry, etc, you must then consider that into handicapping the outcome as well, which, I believe favors her because the “low informed” voter, by nature, is too lazy to really delve into the issues deeply, and by default, whim, or otherwise, vote on the “soundbites” of those who have the greatest saturation of the “airwaves”

That is why I think it hurt her, because this damaging investigation was brought to their attention by the FBI....NOT the RNC or Rush Limbaugh  Grin

Those faithful of either party, is pretty much static, and secure, without much convincing needed, however, even that is changing, as we saw with the Tea Party, and now seeing a “socialist” wing crowding out the white middle class “man” and married/mothered woman, from the parties mainstream.

Make any sense?
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Reply #3 - 10/23/18 at 11:23:35
 
With two other candidates, maybe. If it had been Bernie vs Trump and the FBI thing happened to Bernie, maybe it makes a difference. With Hilary, i don't think so. There hasn't been any candidate people hate as much as her............except for Trump.

I've never spoken to any person who said they switched votes because of the FBI issues. I've never spoken to anyone who said they voted for Trump who says they wouldn't again. I'm sure their are a few, but not many.
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Reply #4 - 10/23/18 at 13:30:51
 
You mean this nuttinburger?... Undecided

Who has been charged with crimes      
George Papadopoulos
     George Papadopoulos Former campaign adviser      Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with people he believed were working on behalf of Russians (pleaded guilty Oct. 5, 2017)      Sentenced to 14 days in prison Sept. 7, 2018
Sam Patten
     Sam Patten Lobbyist linked to Paul Manafort      Failing to register to work as an agent of a foreign power      Pleaded guilty Aug. 31, 2018
Paul Manafort
     Paul Manafort Former campaign chairman      Tax and bank fraud, false statements, being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal, obstruction of justice      Convicted of financial fraud Aug. 21, 2018
Michael D. Cohen
     Michael D. Cohen Mr. Trump’s former lawyer      Tax evasion, bank fraud, campaign finance violations      Pleaded guilty Aug. 21, 2018
Alex van der Zwaan
     Alex van der Zwaan Lawyer who worked with Mr. Manafort and Mr. Gates      Lying to investigators about conversations with Mr. Gates (pleaded guilty Feb. 20, 2018)      Sentenced to 30 days in prison April 3, 2018
Rick Gates
     Rick Gates Former campaign adviser      Financial fraud and lying to the F.B.I.      Pleaded guilty Feb. 23, 2018
Richard Pinedo
     Richard Pinedo California man who sold bank accounts online      Identity fraud      Pleaded guilty Feb. 12, 2018
Michael T. Flynn
     Michael T. Flynn Former national security adviser      Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with the Russian ambassador      Pleaded guilty Dec. 1, 2017
Thirteen Russian nationals
     Thirteen Russian nationals and three related companies      Conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft      
Konstantin V. Kilimnik
     Konstantin V. Kilimnik Russian Army-trained linguist and associate of Mr. Manafort      Obstruction of justice      
Twelve Russian intelligence officers
     Twelve Russian intelligence officers      Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money      
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Reply #5 - 10/23/18 at 14:38:04
 
And now ty cobb comes out and says:

“Bob Mueller is an American hero in my view,” Cobb said during a panel with Jack Quinn, who served as White House lawyer under former President Bill Clinton. “He was a very serious prosecutor. He and I first met in the mid-’80s when we were prosecuting different places, and I have respected him throughout.”

http://www.yahoo.com/news/former-white-house-lawyer-ty-190710131.html
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Reply #6 - 10/23/18 at 15:07:33
 
Uh Bot.....
Did you read my post, did you understand it?

I am talking about the report that has NOT released its findings, as to date....
You understand that means no ones else except the immediate folks working on it, have seen it, right?

The stuff you listed is already out there, and folks can decide if it had anything at all to do with the original intentions of finding evidence of Trump colluding directly with Russia.

Go ahead and school me if the things you listed, how do any of those charges tie in with Trump and Russia stealing the election?
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Reply #7 - 10/24/18 at 10:25:54
 
I got lots of time. So whoever you want to show me how any of that on your reply, is proof, on Trump in cohoots with Putin, as the original claim was instigated.....
I would still just love being educated.
Thank you!
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Reply #8 - 10/24/18 at 10:29:45
 
raydawg wrote on 10/24/18 at 10:25:54:
I got lots of time. So whoever you want to show me how any of that on your reply, is proof, on Trump in cohoots with Putin, as the original claim was instigated.....
I would still just love being educated.
Thank you!



LOL - desperate much there ray?

Have a cookie and a nap, you won't feel so needy afterwards.
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