This statement is so telling,
it needs to be restated.

Do NOT  let the water get hotter.


Take Rep. Maxine Waters, an influential Democrat who had this to say about civility toward the political opposition: "If you see anybody from that (Trump) Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere."

"In addition to embracing violence and the denial of such basic constitutional rights as free speech, freedom of religion and the right  to protect oneself, much of the Democratic Party now embraces a spate of far-left ideas. These include such winners as open borders, Medicare for all (single-payer health care), unrestricted abortion, special "gender" rights, free tuition, government controlled housing, deep and dangerous defense cuts, a job-killing $15-an-hour minimum wage, a “guaranteed income" for all, and ever-higher welfare spending. Meanwhile, the party's socialist-progressive wing, which now dominates, love-hugs all these ideas. And it’s actively anti-capitalist.”

https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/democrats-turn-socialist/

so, you're juxtaposing a statement by Maxine, which I disagree with, for the most part, leave people in peace, but at the same time you have the right to protest if you want,  to a statement of policy ideas that YOU ascribe to ALL democrats....  

you are quite the troll MN SPRINGS HOT AIR A LOT....  

And you're stirring up the "lefties are violent" propaganda that we just put down here on this board for the sake of trying civil discussion...  (at least that's what I think we did... )

if you want to talk the policies fine, let's talk, if you want to go down the "lefties are violent" road again, we've been doing that plenty for the last few days and you're just trolling, cause as Eegore says, we could go through all the statements YOUR LEADER, not just a representative said and says at his rallies and everywhere else and we'd just get nowhere, do you like that dead horse that much....  hope you're wearing a condom.....  (yes, I'm saying you're the kind of person who would f u c k a dead horse) .

LOST  SAID:
And you're stirring up the "lefties are violent" propaganda that we just put down here

Guess you missed reading the:
"...In addition to embracing violence ..."
Which the second paragraph had other things in it.
(Guess you decided to, 'miss', that)

OK, you said:
"if you want to talk the policies fine, let's talk,"

So, you agree with the things stated in the second paragraph ?

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/19/18 at 19:11:26:



so a goofball redneck isn't the same as an idiot???  if you can dismiss one, then you can dismiss the other

LostArtist wrote on 10/20/18 at 10:04:40:


Maybe you can. The difference is
Elected OFFICIALS have followers.
One ignorant redneck doesn't.

LostArtist wrote on 10/20/18 at 11:19:33:

I agree with a few things,

I agree with a few things, universal healthcare, I think the minimum wage is tricky (I'd like to see it linked to the inflation rate somehow),  abortion until viability (or for the life of the mother,her choice),  

So, ‘one size fits all’, kina person.  Where a 50 year old overweight, smoking and drinking person, who has very frequent problems, and sees a doctor every 2-3 weeks. pays the SAME, as a 60 year old person, who is ’normal’ weight, does not smoke drink, eats healthy, and is not a, ‘couch potato’, and sees a doctor every 2-3 months.  Sounds like universal healthcare to me.

Make the ’symptom’ feel better, instead of fixing the, ‘problem’.   When HC Insurances compete, and are NOT ALLOWED a Monopoly, (Like they are Now), they will lower prices. When they lower premiums, they will pay less to the the HC providers, then the HC Providers will stop charging $9.00 for a aspirin.

“… abortion until viability…”  So the description of, viability, is living outside the womb. So Abortion  like it is now, where late term, the baby is turned, then pulled out, with Just the head inside the Womb, THEN IT IS KILLED.   Simply because it is not, ‘born’ yet, so    therefore  it is, NOT, ‘viable’.
I was brought up, that is NOT a act of War, so it is, MURDER.

Tuition, maybe, at least some measures to reduce it's crazy rate of increase, and I'm open to free market ways of doing that that the government could encourage, so I'm not 100% on board with that but it’s favorable to me,  

AWSUM, FREE  Collage Degree !  So then a medical doctor should get 15.00 a hour, because his/her education was FREE.
A skyscraper  engineer  should get 15.00 a hour, because his/her education is FREE ?
Ya get the point. Again the UL’s want to, ‘fix’ the symptom, instead of the ‘problem’.
And the Problem is the schools that want more money, to pay for the assistant secretary, to the principals assistant secretary, who needs a assistant secretary. They are NOT, paying to TEACH. They are paying outrageous salaries to professors who are ’tenured’, and teach one hour a week.

I think our military is already quite HUGE enough, I totally support our troops and think we should divert money from weapons into taking care of our veterans a LOT better,  it'd be great to get out of a few wars while we’re at it,

Symptom, not Problem.
Problem: WE, the USA, are ‘Protecting’, all those, ‘Civilized’ countries, so they don’t have to spend money on Defense.
they can spend it on, free eye glasses. (etc)
Fix problem: Spend money on US, Not the rest, then the Defense budget will go down.

on the borders.... idk, I'm kinda thinking we should give them all tax numbers and let them in, no, they don't get to be citizens, but they can work here legally, pay taxes like the rest of us (including medicare and SS that for them, might go into a separate account, idk, that is a bit tricky) but I'm not going to vilify them because they want a better, safer life for themselves and their family, as far as the "drug war" maybe legalizing that and taxing it would help, jailing millions of people for a little pot is a waste of resources.  

Legal Immigrants, are totally different than, Illegal Immigrants.  Yet the UL’s constantly LIE.
Legal Immigrants are what built this country.
Illegal Immigrants, are tearing it apart.
No need for a, ‘wall’ just a piece of string, with a sign on it.

“War on Drugs’, how’s that working ?  Tax Drugs. OK, then what to do with the dealers on the street corners, who, DO  NOT pay the tax ?   Solution, round up, punish, deport, (deport the majority), of drug sellers. But the Socialistic UL Fairy Dust Sprinklers, Cry about it. So it is not done. (It could be very easily)
Legalizing pot. Yea, many States have done it. The result, that, ‘company’, will pay tax to the State. That industry will blossom, and independent resellers will, (in that State) hire/pay tax.  And the Rest of the States, can get THC filled ‘gummy bears’, out of a trunk, all day long. And those people, do NOT pay taxes.

as far as a universal income....  as technology advances and robots and automation replace truck drivers, factory workers, waitresses, stock clerks, cashiers, etc....  we might have to rethink how we "earn" a living but that’s a ways off and idk, I wouldn't die on that hill you know

Yep, the Brain Surgeon and the Garbage hauler, each get 15.00 a hour.
What, you say it’s not fair ?  Why not ?  Remember you said, FREE  Education.
So the Garbage Hauler, would make more money, after all he Worked and got Paid for 10 Years.
While the Brain Surgeon had to go the FREE school.

oh and some of these ideas would ideally reduce welfare spending or replace some of it, ideally, if the details are all worked out in the right way, I hope anyway

Got-a-ol-big-bag of, ‘Fairy Dust’ ?

and as I've stated before on SS I'm open to the full benefit age going up to 70 and eliminating the income cap on collecting payroll tax

So, ‘Forced’  Saving. That is what SS is. So you are, ‘Forced’, to pay 6% of your income, up to 130,000 into a fund, you have to wait until you are 62 to get ’some’ back, or to 66 to get, ’some’ more back. You are NOT, allowed to create your Own, ’saving fund to replace the, ‘Forced’ fund.  Yet if you make over 130,000 a year, (today, the earning caps and age caps, have changed several times), everyone, ’supposes’, you are smart enough to make a, additional, ’saving/retirement, fund.
You think that, someone making 130,000.00 and up a year, also need to put in 6% in the ‘forced’ saving fund?  That, could be very interesting, and the Politicians would REALLY  salivate over that pile of money.  No telling what ‘pork’ projects could be funded.

And no, I'm not anti capitalism.   companies are going to need an educated, healthy workforce, one that can afford to buy products and participate in consumer activities to keep capitalism healthy.

This can happen with FREE Education ? (and if something is Free, what is it worth ?) And ‘universal’ healthcare, where their is absolutely NO incentive for a person to do anything, which will benefit long term. It is ONLY, live for the Moment.  Remember that, when you were a Kid ?  (Just like the UL’s Socialists want you to continue to do)

sure, there might have been a ton of democratic policies that screwed up healthcare and college, idk, it's possible, but let's focus on how to make a better world for us and our future instead of playing the whataboutism/ blame game.

“…might have been a ton of democratic policies…”
MIGHT have been ?????   They exist, that is why they Need to be Fixed.
The, adults are trying to FIX them.
But the UL Socialist, Fairy Dust Sprinkling kids, are in the way. Standing in the street and Crying !

LostArtist wrote on 10/20/18 at 20:57:51:


You're totally ignorant about the Robertson family.
Truth is
Upper level democrats are telling people to be aggressive.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/21/18 at 09:42:42:


and the president is cheering on body slamming reporters and looking the other way as the Saudi's kill reporters, the president urged people at a rally to be aggressive and rough up protesters there, Ted Nugent caraictured raping Clinton with a gun....,  and the President mocked and makes fun of victims,

being aggressive vocally is totally within your first amendment rights, you have the right to tell our elected leaders and those they appoint what you think, or maybe you son't really support the first amendment...