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Reply #15 - 09/20/18 at 09:31:14
 
The country has always been more to the left than right.  It's why we have Medicare, medicaid, unemployment benefits, social security and all the other "welfare" programs.

There's left and looney left. Conservatives support safety net programs, not cradle to grave coddling however. Big difference.

As to who they put up against (pence?) in 2020?
Ha ha! Keep dreaming!

But you can bet, that candidate will be help to a higher, progressive agenda than ever before.
I hope so! That will get rejected.
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Reply #16 - 09/20/18 at 09:32:54
 
It's not about supporting republicans - it's about supporting trump.  The man is an idiot, and the republicans are idiots for keeping him around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHT0qUpLxMI
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Reply #17 - 09/20/18 at 09:52:44
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/20/18 at 09:32:54:
It's not about supporting republicans - it's about supporting trump.  The man is an idiot, and the republicans are idiots for keeping him around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHT0qUpLxMI


Web...... that is a great example of blinded by ideology rage/indoctrination ala ISIS.

Think of a remark like this:

Anybody who would vote for, or support a candidate who called women, who accused her husband of rape, liars, etc, denying their claims, and then using the media to smear these women.....
Is a friggin IDIOT!


A vast rightwing conspiracy  Grin
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Reply #18 - 09/20/18 at 10:53:06
 
Just glance over the data, I would hate to commit to any analysis.
But it is rare that an pres gains house or senate members.
A study based upon the laws passed would probably have more insight.
Obamacare probably influenced more voters at a time when the economy was in turmoil then anything else.
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Reply #19 - 09/20/18 at 11:10:20
 
Look here, Obama's first remarks after winning against McCain:

President Barack Obama challenged the GOP to end political brinkmanship and said Republicans should "win an election" if they so badly wish to change his policies.

In his first extended remarks since the government reopened, Obama said that the public has grown "fed up" with its government and urged lawmakers to move past the conflict of the past few weeks.

"To all my friends in Congress, understand that how business is done in this town has to change," he said.

"You don't like a particular policy or a particular president? Then argue for your position. Go out there and win an election," The president said. "But don't break it.”


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/obama-gop-win-election-change-policies-fln...

Did he even adhere to his own advice.....????

NO

They didn't even allow arguments, but rammed their OWN ideas upon us.

Look here, the NYT says the republicans, especially the "conservative" are done.....

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/05/us/politics/05campaign.html

You guys getting it yet?

The polls had Hillary by a easy win.
So, what happened?
Folks just played their cards close to their chest.....why?
Or, was the media pushing a agenda and narrative?

Same crap now.
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Reply #20 - 09/20/18 at 11:25:50
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/20/18 at 09:31:14:
The country has always been more to the left than right.  It's why we have Medicare, medicaid, unemployment benefits, social security and all the other "welfare" programs.

There's left and looney left. Conservatives support safety net programs, not cradle to grave coddling however. Big difference.

Really?  What's "looney left"?  Medicare for all?  You may want to check your facts.

As to who they put up against (pence?) in 2020?
Ha ha! Keep dreaming!

I am - if the democrats win the house and local elections as predicted, then impeachment is on the table.

But you can bet, that candidate will be help to a higher, progressive agenda than ever before.
I hope so! That will get rejected.


Maybe by you mark, but the rest of the country wants more progressive candidates.  Look at Texas as just one example.
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Reply #21 - 09/20/18 at 11:27:03
 
WebsterMark wrote on 09/20/18 at 09:32:54:
It's not about supporting republicans - it's about supporting trump.  The man is an idiot, and the republicans are idiots for keeping him around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHT0qUpLxMI


Well mark, poll numbers are what they are.  I'm not making it up.

But if denial works for you, that's cool.
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Reply #22 - 09/20/18 at 11:33:07
 
raydawg wrote on 09/20/18 at 11:10:20:
Look here, Obama's first remarks after winning against McCain:

President Barack Obama challenged the GOP to end political brinkmanship and said Republicans should "win an election" if they so badly wish to change his policies.

In his first extended remarks since the government reopened, Obama said that the public has grown "fed up" with its government and urged lawmakers to move past the conflict of the past few weeks.

"To all my friends in Congress, understand that how business is done in this town has to change," he said.

"You don't like a particular policy or a particular president? Then argue for your position. Go out there and win an election," The president said. "But don't break it.”


https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/obama-gop-win-election-change-policies-fln...

Did he even adhere to his own advice.....????

NO

They didn't even allow arguments, but rammed their OWN ideas upon us.

Look here, the NYT says the republicans, especially the "conservative" are done.....

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/05/us/politics/05campaign.html

You guys getting it yet?

The polls had Hillary by a easy win.

No ray, they didn't.  She was by far the least popular democratic candidate in modern history. Please, show us a poll from the fall of 2016 where hillary had it wrapped up? Most of the polls were within a margin of error.

So, what happened?
Folks just played their cards close to their chest.....why?
Or, was the media pushing a agenda and narrative?

Same crap now.


Not at all the same thing now.  Look at history.  Look at trump's numbers.  Take time to really understand what's happening.

But why am I wasting my time?  You didn't vote anyway.... lol

You gonna have any skin in the game this time?

You gonna vote for a true democrat?  After all, that's what you said you were.   Grin

Nah... you won't vote.  What do you care?
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Reply #23 - 09/20/18 at 15:09:10
 
tt  SAID: Really?  What's "looney left"?  
 Really ???????
That explains why YOU, think all  people to the Right of Center,
Are Nazi/White Supremacist , like people.
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #24 - 09/20/18 at 15:13:43
 
MnSpring wrote on 09/20/18 at 15:09:10:
tt  SAID: Really?  What's "looney left"?  
 Really ???????
That explains why YOU, think all  people to the Right of Center,
Are Nazi/White Supremacist , like people.


Context mn.  Once again, you failed to grab the context of my question.

The whole question was - "What's "looney left"?  Medicare for all?"
Why do you refuse to use common sense?


Oh, and for the record, I DON'T think all people on the right are nazis/white supremacists.

OK?  Any of that sinking in??
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