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raydawg wrote on 09/19/18 at 15:11:53:I keep hearing about how folks just loath Trump and the conservative agenda.
Just look at the polls ray. It's not just "folks", it's everyone.
How the country can't stand the man, its on the wrong course, etc.
With that idiot at the helm, we have no idea what course we're on. Have you seen the latest from North Korea?
That because of the republicans wrong view for america, a blue wave is cresting.....
Not all republicans, but a vast majority. As well as some establishment democrats (oh, I hope I didn't offend. I know you're a dem, sorry)
I go back to all the stories written about the republicans/conservatism, as dead, moot, gone for good, with Obama's first term election.
The republican party was whipped, disheartened, finished.
Yet.
Obama's first midterm, the PERFECT opportunity to expand on their power that was EMBRACED by the country....
More liberalism and progressive power to propel the country to this new defined agenda mandate.....
But.....
Seats in Congress Gained/Lost by the President's Party in Mid-Term Elections F. Roosevelt - Trump
Year Lame Duck? President Party president's job approval % House Seats Senate Seats early Aug late Aug early Sep late Sep early Oct late Oct 1934 Franklin D. Roosevelt D nd nd nd nd nd nd +9 +9 1938 Franklin D. Roosevelt D nd nd nd nd nd 60 -71 -6 1942 Franklin D. Roosevelt D 74 nd 74 nd nd nd -55 -9 1946 Harry S. Truman D nd nd 33 nd nd 27 -45 -12 1950 LD* Harry S. Truman D nd 43 35 35 43 41 -29 -6 1954 Dwight D. Eisenhower R 67 62 nd 66 62 nd -18 -1 1958 LD Dwight D. Eisenhower R 58 56 56 54 57 nd -48 -13 1962 John F. Kennedy D nd 67 nd 63 nd 61 -4 +3 1966 † Lyndon B. Johnson D 51 47 nd nd 44 44 -47 -4 1970 Richard Nixon R 55 55 57 51 58 nd -12 +2 1974 ± Gerald R. Ford (Nixon) R 71 nd 66 50 53 nd -48 -5 1978 Jimmy Carter D 39 43 43 48 nd 49 -15 -3 1982 Ronald Reagan R 41 42 nd 42 nd 42 -26 +1 1986 LD Ronald Reagan R nd 64 nd 63 64 nd -5 -8 1990 George Bush R 75 73 54 nd nd 57 -8 -1 1994 William J. Clinton D 43 40 40 44 43 48 -52 -8 1998 LD William J. Clinton D 65 62 63 66 65 65 +5 0 2002 George W. Bush R nd 66 66 66 68 67 +8 +2 2006 LD George W. Bush R 37 42 39 44 37 37 -30 -6 2010 Barack Obama D 44 44 45 45 45 45 -63 -6 2014 LD Barack Obama D 42 42 41 43 42 41 -13 -9 2018 Donald J Trump R 40 41 39
Those are approval numbers, then house results, then senate.
Why did he not expand instead of historical losses, if what we were told was true?
You believe everything you're told, or do you rely on facts? Historically, evidenced by your cryptic chart (next time, try and post a pic or link), most first term presidents lose seats in both houses. Yes, even the great Ronald Reagan *gasp*
It's related to their approval rating. Look at how pathetic trump's is (with a good economy even!)
Was the deplorables already a factor, or was his election a anti hillary choice, and folks saw they bought a clunker?
He was voted for because people wanted change and (to an equal degree) they vote against hillary.
But again, if it was the liberal mandate that won, folks really wanted that, Obama would not have factored in, either way.
Again, look to history. Look at voter turnout. It's not just about the president - it's far more complex than that.
I see it as a repudiation of the lies told by liberals to get elected, then to quickly abandon once elected, and folks spanked them down REAL HARD once given the very first opportunity. Wow, nice use of that $7 word.... but that don't hold water.
It's not a 'repudiation' for lies (if that were the case, the House, Senate and every single incumbent out there at the state level would be gone.) It's not as simple as black and white. For one thing, follow the money. Another, look at the incumbents. Then look at the redistricting.
Nah, you probably wouldn't wanna do that.
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