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Reply #15 - 09/13/18 at 15:05:22
 
faffi wrote on 09/13/18 at 14:39:39:
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But on a serious note, do they have any candidates with broad appeal?



A little too early to tell for the presidential.  It'll be a wait and see until the midterms.  I have a feeling it might be an upset among the dems (yes, dems).  Justice Democrats like Ocasio-Cortez and strong progressives like Beto are leading the charge away from the democratic establishment.

Since that trend is proving to be successful, I think it'd be more likely Warren or possibly someone else in the Bernie camp (if not he himself) would be selected.  I don't think Joe can do it.
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Reply #16 - 09/14/18 at 05:01:40
 
Serowbot wrote on 09/13/18 at 14:50:47:
Biden?...
Warren?...


Yes please.
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Reply #17 - 09/14/18 at 05:21:15
 
Yeah, I dare you to run

creepy uncle joe biden

Copy and paste that into your search engine.

Warren? As big of a joke as she is, she beats Joe.
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Reply #18 - 09/14/18 at 07:53:11
 
As with the Trump outcome, I think politics have entered a new phase that leaves conventional wisdom out in the cold.
I am not sure how much "steering" has been prevalent all along from the power mongers who handicap the primaries etc, to get their horse to a unfair advantage.....
But they are losing a important tool of press/media domination with the invent of other informational avenues people are connecting with....

I believe it is driving lots of folks mad, as they see their grip on the status quo, of how the game was played,lessening.....
Which deeply cuts into their ability to cash in.

When you see the BIG pillars tumble in primaries,you gotta believe this new movement is on.
I simply think the so called "deplorable" factor is NOT one party favored,but a LOT of folks who are sick and tired of the games and lies of politicians.
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Reply #19 - 09/14/18 at 08:38:53
 
Dems and bubs, bubs and dems, back and forth, and in my life, watching the games played out, I saw a few degrees left, and when power swapped, a few degrees right. If, in fact, the two parties are diametrically opposed as we are told, why doesn't the trajectory of America's politics change drastically when power swings?
Because there are unelected people who, even when they change after an election, come out of the same
Think Tanks.
America is tired of it.
Trump told Oprah in 83? he was not interested in the job, but would take it if he ever saw his country in serious trouble.
Americans saw what he saw and elected him, warts and all.
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Reply #20 - 09/14/18 at 15:18:50
 
What you need is a younger Sanders.
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Reply #21 - 09/14/18 at 16:03:36
 
What is needed is for people to actually understand what capitalism is.
Nobody has seen it.
It died decades ago.
Capitalism is responsible for more improvement than any other system.
Everyone needs to read
Creature from Jekyll island.
At least check out G. Edward Griffin you tubes on the federal reserve.
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Reply #22 - 09/15/18 at 08:46:16
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/14/18 at 16:03:36:
What is needed is for people to actually understand what capitalism is.
Nobody has seen it.
It died decades ago.
Capitalism is responsible for more improvement than any other system.
Everyone needs to read
Creature from Jekyll island.
At least check out G. Edward Griffin you tubes on the federal reserve.


Jog, we have gone round and round on this before, you and I.
I respect your insights and opinions on many things, but again buddy, and I will only offer this once, as I know we will never agree, or make that, I will never side with your absolute view on this subject.

Yes, capitalism has proven the TRUTH that it affords the most people the opportunity to improve on their life lot.
I will example firsthand, how I saw folks born into the mess of Asia, come to the states, hired by Boeing, thriving and prospering by their OWN hard work, to a lifestyle they could not fathom, only dreaming about......
They shared with me their return home on vacations, and their sharing with those still in Asia, and the awe those folks have in the telling of their stories.
It is breathtaking, as well as humbling, when you compare it with much of the "guilt" that many try and hang on those Whites, conservatives, etc, who do well in America today.

However, not every body, person can rise to such self sufficiency, nor is every employer, business, playing "fair."

A goverment needs to provide and regulate many things in order to have the best opportunity for the most, a foundation, if you will, for all to build upon that is as static as possible.....

And that includes currency, as it is the instrument of "barter" for us to commence in commerce.

And finally, as a democracy, so many things are NOT static, but change with times, and invention, the INTERNET being a great example, or pharmaceuticals.....

If these two products were truly allowed to "gouge" the consumer for a maximum profit, it could, and I say would, have a adverse effect on many who could not afford to participate in the benefits of capitalism.

I know you believe currency manipulation was more sinister, I just disagree, not in total, but in theory, as with ANYTHING man has done in this world, greed has been a motivating factor for many, even in communism, socialism, too, as those who are in control of distribution ALWAYS see that THEIR plates are filled first.

The only person I know of who did NOT fall to this temptation was a hippie named Jesus  Grin        
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Re: Anecdotal evidence
Reply #23 - 09/15/18 at 08:49:09
 
faffi wrote on 09/14/18 at 15:18:50:
What you need is a younger Sanders.


Elaborate please.
Please keep in mind how he has prospered under the current policies.
I see just talk, yet no example, as in just another politician who says one thing, yet does another.
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Reply #24 - 09/15/18 at 12:56:57
 
I have not heard of Sanders since he stepped down as candidate of choice to Clinton, but he spoke of important changes that over time would change America. IMO to the better. But if you conservative, it would not be considered good.
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Reply #25 - 09/15/18 at 14:04:37
 
faffi wrote on 09/15/18 at 12:56:57:
I have not heard of Sanders since he stepped down as candidate of choice to Clinton, but he spoke of important changes that over time would change America. IMO to the better. But if you conservative, it would not be considered good.


Funny, you make charges against group think, then you group charge....

Come back and dialogue once you understand your disingenuous statement.  
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Reply #26 - 09/15/18 at 14:09:32
 
All we need to win is someone that ain't Trump... Tongue
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Reply #27 - 09/15/18 at 15:32:39
 
Put Hillary out in front.
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Reply #28 - 09/15/18 at 17:07:46
 
Serowbot wrote on 09/15/18 at 14:09:32:
All we need to win is someone that ain't Trump... Tongue


Again Bot, it ain't Trump.

What is so hard for you to understand that?

Yes, YES, there are some die hard MAGA maggots who are just as stupid as those leftist who shoot up softball teams, etc....
But that is NOT enough to have gotten him elected, its folks are sick and tired of the partisan crap, even Ruth is  Grin

But you are so part of that mindset, you can't see the truth anymore.
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Re: Anecdotal evidence
Reply #29 - 09/17/18 at 06:12:25
 
raydawg wrote on 09/15/18 at 17:07:46:
Serowbot wrote on 09/15/18 at 14:09:32:
All we need to win is someone that ain't Trump... Tongue


Again Bot, it ain't Trump.

What is so hard for you to understand that?

Yes, YES, there are some die hard MAGA maggots who are just as stupid as those leftist who shoot up softball teams, etc....
But that is NOT enough to have gotten him elected, its folks are sick and tired of the partisan crap, even Ruth is  Grin

But you are so part of that mindset, you can't see the truth anymore.



Right ray, and all those that simply voted for "Change" are now waking up with a severe hangover.

Thus, trump's approval rating is in the toilet and going down - just in time for the midterms.

He won by about 100,000 votes in electoral states.  Well, that's now gone.

You see people Beto and Ocasio-Cortez now, taking that space up. The public in this country lean left.  Every single poll shows it.

Not to worry ray - I'm sure, like me, Bot sees the truth.  As does everyone else.
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