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Re: Don't be surprised
Reply #15 - 09/03/18 at 14:07:20
 
It's possible to shove your hand into the garage disposal.
But it's stupid.
Likely, most reasonable behavior?
He won't.
A false flag, in Order to create support for us to stay is more likely.

And
Considering the lies that have been used to get Americans to support military adventure are well known.
Where would you put your money?
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Reply #16 - 09/03/18 at 14:19:43
 
 US forces are not using chemical weapons on themselves, they could but it would be stupid.  Just like garbage disposals, but the concern isn't what US personnel is doing to themselves.

 The concern is what is possible.  Possible is how severe consequence utilization is assessed, not probable.  

 Is it possible that Assad could use chemical weapons in the same way Rebels did?

 Yes or No?

 If yes use NBC protocols, if no then don't.  

 Is it probable that Assad could use chemical weapons in the same way Rebels did?

 If yes use NBC protocols, of no still use NBC protocols.

 I in no way would put my money on probability if the possibility means the death of US personnel.  If I used probability logic and mainstream media when I'm overseas I'd be dead in no time.
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Reply #17 - 09/03/18 at 14:53:16
 
Well, Assad did it.

Rebels did it, to make it look like Assad did it.

Assad did it, to make it look like the Rebels did it, while blaming Assad.

Rebels did it, to make it look like Assad did it, in a way that would blame the Rebels, who would say Assad did it.

Sounds a lot like paying Poker LOL
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Reply #18 - 09/03/18 at 15:00:48
 
Chemicals get used
Assad loses.
Or do you people not remember the last time?
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Reply #19 - 09/03/18 at 16:46:50
 
 Chemicals get used.  So if you are in that area, not here safe at home, do you leave your NBC gear because Assad won't use them?  Or do you take your NBC gear because Assad could use them?

 One method you live, the other you die, or get maimed.

 That's why keyboard logic isn't used in the environment exposed to the risk.  That is also why people who make decisions don't use keyboard logic as its their responsibility to keep people from unneeded risk.  

 It doesn't matter to anyone on the ground if Assad is afraid of US intervention or not.  If he is capable you use that parameter, no matter if it makes sense for him or not.

 If Rebels can make it look like Syrian Army conducted a chemical exposure, then its possible that Syrian Army can make it look like Rebels did it.  The possibility exists because Assad has an Army, and Chemical weapons.
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Reply #20 - 09/03/18 at 18:40:13
 
What is the gain for Assad?
He is winning NOW.
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Reply #21 - 09/03/18 at 20:14:10
 
"What is the gain for Assad?"

 I don't know.  When I am over there I do not care, because its me that will die if I listen to people who want to use probability over possibility.

 What I do know is that if he has the possibility you don't pretend he doesn't if you want to increase your chances of survival.  You don't terminate NBC protocol unless the opposition can not, as in incapable of, utilizing chemical agent.

 Assad has chemical weapons, he has an Army, he can use chemical weapons.  Its easy for you to say it won't happen because you wont die if he does.  

 Its possible that Assad can use chemical agent and blame it on Rebels because he has chemical weapons.
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Reply #22 - 09/04/18 at 10:27:43
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/02/18 at 15:28:56:
The only reasonable conclusion



the only reasonable conclusion is a conspiracy by the rebels to frame Assad...  

okay then....... if you say so, it must be so....   Roll Eyes


it couldn't be simple human behavior of getting mad and reacting irrationally for revenge.. to teach them rebels a lesson...  nah, he'd be too smart for that...  

I don't know what's happening over there, and yeah, your option is possible, but it's far from the only possiblity
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Reply #23 - 09/04/18 at 12:15:34
 
LostArtist wrote on 09/04/18 at 10:27:43:
" ...okay then....... if you say so, it must be so....   Roll Eyes..."

So then everything tt says,
…  it must be so ….

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Reply #24 - 09/04/18 at 12:26:03
 
MnSpring wrote on 09/04/18 at 12:15:34:
LostArtist wrote on 09/04/18 at 10:27:43:
" ...okay then....... if you say so, it must be so....   Roll Eyes..."

So then everything tt says,
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Wow mn!  I'm honored that I'm always on your mind.  So much so that in a thread that I haven't posted in, you feel the need to call me out.

Bless your heart.
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Reply #25 - 09/04/18 at 12:41:06
 
T And T Garage wrote on 09/04/18 at 12:26:03:
 Bless your heart.

See here we have two threads,
and two posts from you,
saying:  “…Bless your heart….”

Exactly what is a, ‘blessing’,
from someone,
who, repeatedly says they are, ‘Agnostic’ ?

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Reply #26 - 09/04/18 at 12:44:20
 
MnSpring wrote on 09/04/18 at 12:41:06:
T And T Garage wrote on 09/04/18 at 12:26:03:
 Bless your heart.

See here we have two threads,
and two posts from you,
saying:  “…Bless your heart….”

Exactly what is a, ‘blessing’,
from someone,
who, repeatedly says they are, ‘Agnostic’ ?


Well mn, I'll just say this.

Bless your heart.
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Reply #27 - 09/04/18 at 13:01:35
 
T And T Garage wrote on 09/04/18 at 12:44:20:
 Well mn, I'll just say this.
Bless your heart.

What/Where is your answer ?

Again, one side of your mouth you say:  ‘…Bless your heart…”
(Which blessing someone indicates a belief in a God/Deity)

Then the other side of your mouth you say:
you are,  ‘Agnostic’

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Reply #28 - 09/04/18 at 13:09:22
 
MnSpring wrote on 09/04/18 at 13:01:35:
T And T Garage wrote on 09/04/18 at 12:44:20:
 Well mn, I'll just say this.
Bless your heart.

What/Where is your answer ?

Again, one side of your mouth you say:  ‘…Bless your heart…”
(Which blessing someone indicates a belief in a God/Deity)

Then the other side of your mouth you say:
you are,  ‘Agnostic’

Which Is It ?

(In a Announcer Voice)
This Drive By Brought to you by MnSpring Inc.
Sponsored by, Ttlosteds,
the Proud makers of
the Crystal clear Snowflake coating.
Which totally protects you,
when you are standing in the street crying.
(Or Lying)



The answer lies within you mn.  Look deep inside yourself.  Way down deep.

If that doesn't work, then just ignore the blessing.

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Reply #29 - 09/04/18 at 13:15:17
 
T And T Garage wrote on 09/04/18 at 13:09:22:
"...If that doesn't work, then just ignore the blessing.

I Believe the question was,
Why do you talk out of both sides of your mouth ?
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