I've been traveling so missed how this all started, but why all the hoopla over 3-D printed guns all of a sudden? A slow news day or what?

sounds like a free speech case. I'll try to read up on it today because that's a fascinating topic. I assume you couldn't publish detailed nuclear weapon plans online, could you? Even if you could, the only ones capable of making one would already know, wouldn't they?

Look just here, how many times the liars,  just keep repeating Lies, about Guns.
After they have been told, Over and Over and Over, about what that laws are, by many different people.

Yet they Still, LIE,
by giving the impression, anyone, anywhere, from anyone, can buy a gun just like a tea cup off flee-bay.

Now to the, ‘plastic’ gun.
(Not that it matters, because the, LIARS, will just keep on LYING, for the reason that people that do not know about firearms, will believe, by their LIES, ALL  firearms are bad)
3-D printing, has been around for  35-40 YEARS.  It was/still called CNC Machining and other things.
When it started, the input was by a human, who told the machine what to do.  Which because that impute was recorded, (first on a piece of paper with holes punched in it, then today by some fast moving electrons, like a SD card), so the movements could be replicated, much faster, than a human could do. 100’s of years before that, their were machines that did the SAME  things, but a a much slower pace, because their was only human impute, for each piece.

Today, one only has to put a piece in. Then the, ‘computer’ measures that piece. Than that information is recorded, and can be replicated.
So you want to do this, and have 1/2 a million + laying about to buy the machines. You take apart a gun, every single piece, that is  EVERY SINGLE PIECE, which can be 100’s, is recorded, then re make one, out of, plastic, because the machine that will cut the plastic, cost only a few thousand, where one that cuts metal, and cost up to a Million.  (Oh, and is how a ‘gun’ is made today)

Now, for the ‘guy’ that released the copy of the recorded electrons.
Guessing it is the same as one getting all sorts of bomb making information on the web.
And most similar to photos/videos of naked humans doing various things.
A item to be argued about if that, ‘information’, can or cannot be released.
(Don’t think the, ‘I know Porn when I see it’, argument is going to work, yet the gun grabbers are certainly using it)

Now for the, ‘practical’ thing about that plastic gun.
1. It is a VERY crude piece.
2. It is a single shot.
3. It would cost 20 to 50 times more to create, than just buy one.
4. It, STILL, Needs some metal parts.
5. It is, Really, I mean REALLY,  un safe.
And #5.
A-Yep, someone, who has a brain the size of a pea, just may make one, and commit a crime with one.
But never mind, NEVER, waste a good, (DFI Shooting), (or a spin/lie), to further the goal of, BANNING  guns.
So, the Anti-Gunners, are, CRYING, and doing everything they can do, to ‘BAN’, ‘Because …” !

And OH, a firearm, can, and has, been made, by people, in their backyard, for probably only 400 + Years !

Serowbot wrote on 08/02/18 at 09:16:18:


in ten years it will be just like it is now.... the lawful will follow the rules and the unlawful will not....

Isn't it illegal to own a gun without a serial number?...

"No, it is illegal to sell a gun without a serial number"

 Exactly.  This is one of the things people get wrong when trying to advocate.  I am told all day long my guns are illegal because they are unregistered, and have no forms of identification.  

 The long legal issue with the "plastic guns" is not the guns, its the distribution of the information.

MShipley wrote on 08/02/18 at 09:35:08:



so why have any laws then...

"...I am told all day long my guns are illegal because they are unregistered, and have no forms of identification..."  

Calling a firearm, ‘registered’, because it was purchased at a dealer/store, is wrong, their is NO  Federal  ‘Registration’.
(Their may be a State, County, City, Township, that has a local law that a, firearm must be, ‘registered’)
So if you have a gun, sell it to your friend, (transfer through a gun shop), that is NOT, registration. (The gun shop thanks you, you just paid them $30.00 +/-, for .$0.0001 cents of ink)
Many people believe that when they fill out the federal 4473 form, That, is, ‘Registering’.   It is NOT.

A, ‘registered’ something, like a gun, means the Federal Government, KNOWS, John Doe HAS, a certain, make/model/cal/barrel/sights/etc firearm.  So when the time comes, (as  a group of people want), to, ‘Round Up All Guns’, the government, knows, Exactly what/kind/cal/and how many you have.  (Fully Auto firearms, ARE, Federally registered)

Now before the Snowflakes all get their Panties in a bunch.
Their, IS, a method to, ’Track’ a firearm, if one is found used in a crime,
well unless someone filed off the ser #, and is selling out of the trunk of car in a dark alley in Chicago.
(OBTW, how is that, ‘War’, on Drugs going ?)