Therefore this forum like everything else in our culture these days is about winning, not understanding.



This precisely describe the political "discussions" on this forum. Neither side is really trying to understand the other because A) the other is acting like they know all the answers and that their view is so blatantly obvious that everybody must understand and agree and B) the opposite to the other is exactly the same. Not unlike the British Parlament where the politicians acts like children, booing, applauding, laughing sarcastically etc.


Also worth noting is that this forum is a political and religious arena with some motorcycle stuff mixed in for good measure