MShipley
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LostArtist wrote on 08/07/18 at 13:47:11:MShipley wrote on 08/07/18 at 11:21:08:The Tall Table for me has always been fascinating because I never see people like the Leftist that are on here in the real world. As I've said, I travel for work, am in a different city nearly every week and deal with a wide range of people in the manufacturing sector. I run mostly into hard core righties, mainstream conservatives, those who fall under the mildly socially liberal but fiscally conservative. Occasionally, I'll run into a politically active Democrat but that's almost always a woman in an administrative office setting. Where do you people hide all day.... I agree with this. It is why I come here and read this stuff. Fascinating because I too know no one in real life that thinks the way some of you guys think. Sorry but I just find NO logic or reasoning in the hate that is on this site. I am also well traveled and active in the community. I know 1 person that is this left and he at least will straight up admit he is a Socialist.
I have stated before that I study Worldviews and recently had an assignment to interview an atheist......It took me a week to find one.... do you only see hate from the liberals on this site? and I don't know where you live, but I imagine it's a fairly small town, and as such, it's probably majority republican if not conservative. Especially if you're in a southern state or a known conservative area. and, in case I haven't made my point before, I know you think the same of liberals, but us liberals, we're kind of scared of conservatives, your judgment is harsh, it involves us being evil, retarded, wanting to destroy America, stupid, illogical, flakey, fruity, gay, perverted.... so, I know I don't want to be associated with any of that in anyone's mind, true or not, so, no, I'm not going to admit to some old white guy that I'm liberal, I hate it when they ask me at the voting poll place when I vote in a primary which primary I'm voting in, I know they need to know, but can't I just check a box on a form or something.... just my opinion maybe I'm just overly sensitive, or seeking acceptance the best I can ... and remember, that only 61% of the population voted in the last presidential election, and how many of those have well thought out positions on everything political, very few of us are as hardcore as we are on this site, and the liberals here, really, we aren't all that left wing crazy. [/quote] I do not understand how you got what you must be feeling out of what I posted. PS, I do not live in a small town. I said nothing hateful about anyone. I did not say anything judgmental about anyone. I said I do not agree.
Here is the truth, and it is very Non Politically Correct for me to say, but the old saying "Birds of a feather flock together" is a very good description of humans. That is why I know few liberal atheist and probably why you know few conservative Christians. It is just the way we are hard wired.
A white guy is walking down a city street at night, ahead are 5 black guys standing on the corner, pants below their ass, so the white guy crosses the street because he fears what might happen. In another town a black guy is walking down the street at night and ahead are 5 white guys, bald heads and swastika tattoos so he crosses to the other side of the street because he fears what might happen. Question is are these guys Racist or just cautious? In both scenarios the groups of men may have been the nicest guys in the world.
You know it is interesting stuff. Yes I think what draws me here is that I hope I can understand and appreciate other opinions, even if I disagree. The problem in Western Culture though is that we have redefined words. Tolerance does not mean to tolerate, it means to capitulate. Therefore this forum like everything else in our culture these days is about winning, not understanding.
Are there things said out here that make me angry? Yes there are. For the last 10 years I have spent my every vacation traveling the world to help and work with the poorest of the poor, the helpless. I don't tell you this to lift me up, I am telling you this because I have a lot of experience. Americans have NO IDEA how lucky they are to live in this country. And the one thing that will infuriate me is when people put America down. (ps, I am not accusing you personally here) Do we have problems? yes. But this Hate that is going on against this country, in this country, is undeserved. Every country I go to it is the same thing. An oppressive greedy government that dominates the people. The people are all the same, they just want to live and eat and raise their children in safety.
You say you are scared of conservatives? Conservatives are afraid of you! The masses in this country are right where we are supposed to be, divided. Who's fault is it? the right? the left? The truth is it is neither. It's greed, greed of the right, greed of the left, greed of the media. If the PEOPLE do not put this right,left *$*&% aside and start listening instead of talking we as a country and a people are doomed.
I am a Conservative Christian, but I also understand that history has a bad side for Conservative Christians also. Conservatives and Christians have failed on many levels, but we have to stop looking back and pointing fingers. All are guilty even Progressive liberals. For instance over the years the Church has failed on the race issue. Are you aware that in the BIBLE the word race is never used, people are never divided by color, only by cultures. In fact if you believe in the Bible we ALL come from two people which makes ALL of us brothers and sisters no matter what we look like. There ARE NO RACES except human beings. And we need to start acting that way.
Anyway, I ramble.
Peace
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