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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum. Reply #15 - 07/25/18 at 14:33:10 Haha.... This is just a new twist, tactic, of PC mindset. I will be civil if you are. You don’t Agree with me, you ain’t civil Love it. That should sustain you for a spell.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum. Reply #16 - 07/25/18 at 17:58:28 They only want Common Sense gun laws. They decide what common sense is.
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Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum.
Reply #17 - 07/26/18 at 01:45:03

raydawg wrote on 07/25/18 at 14:33:10:

Haha....
This is just a new twist, tactic, of PC mindset.

Actually the twist is all yours, we ask for forum rules to stop pointless flaming on (as Trump would say) all sides. Yet it appears that only those who support Trump want a forum with no rules. Why is that do you suppose?

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum. Reply #18 - 07/26/18 at 02:11:34 It's been fine for years.
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MShipley Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 681	Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum. Reply #19 - 07/26/18 at 04:17:25 Some actually believe in freedom! Freedom means you can say and think what you want even if I don't like it. I have been in and out of this forum for many years. It is no different today than then. The forum dosn't change just because you or I show up or leave. The forum does not create incivility! The people do.
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Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum.
Reply #20 - 07/26/18 at 06:37:23

eau de sauvage wrote on 07/26/18 at 01:45:03:

raydawg wrote on 07/25/18 at 14:33:10:

Haha....
This is just a new twist, tactic, of PC mindset.

Actually the twist is all yours, we ask for forum rules to stop pointless flaming on (as Trump would say) all sides. Yet it appears that only those who support Trump want a forum with no rules. Why is that do you suppose?

You do not need anyone’s permission.
Just do it yourself, if you feel its needed, and will make things better.
Lead the way, sorta going against the flow, like Trump Grin

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28668 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum. Reply #21 - 07/26/18 at 06:50:46 Okay,... so it's settled... Everyone will act like a grown up,... except for the children.
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Eegore Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 8348	Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum. Reply #22 - 07/26/18 at 07:37:43 I think we should set up a forum initiative identifying what a child is and how they act so we know who is a child or otherwise acting like one.
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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum. Reply #23 - 07/26/18 at 09:10:11 Eegore wrote on 07/26/18 at 07:37:43: I think we should set up a forum initiative identifying what a child is and how they act so we know who is a child or otherwise acting like one. Perfect......
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Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum.
Reply #24 - 07/26/18 at 12:42:03

“… It wasn't so bad before Trump because closet racists and black hearted nationalists (as opposed to patriots) would generally be a bit reticent about coming out….”

So, it was fine, before Trump was elected.
But now it is bad, because, someone says, ANYONE, who voted for Trump are: “…closet racists and black hearted nationalists…”
And give the inference that they are NOT, “…patriots…” ?

(And of course, it is entirely Trumps fault, Barr and Taylor, said the things they said)

“…we ask for forum rules to stop pointless flaming…”
Really, Wow, Outrageous. WHO could possibly be doing that ?????

“… it appears that only those who support Trump want a forum with no rules. Why is that do you suppose? …”

Could it be that a group of people, are spending to much on ‘Burn Creme’ ?

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Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum.
Reply #25 - 07/26/18 at 12:51:31

Since being a nationalist, which I assume is to prefer and support and want prosperity for my country, is apparently wrong,
I'd like to know what others call being a nationalist
And
What is a patriot?
I figure I'm as much or more of a patriot as anyone here.
Somehow I don't believe my understanding of the word is what the left envisions when they read the word.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28668 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum. Reply #26 - 07/26/18 at 12:56:51 Nationalism is the "Family Feud" version of patriotism...
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28887 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum. Reply #27 - 07/26/18 at 13:03:43 Serowbot wrote on 07/26/18 at 12:56:51: Nationalism is the "Family Feud" version of patriotism... with ketchup?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum. Reply #28 - 07/26/18 at 13:14:14 Then would someone be so kind as to at Least help me identify childish behavior? Oh.. Is that childishness or an admission that you can't define the words you use?
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Re: Let's agree to moderate the forum.
Reply #29 - 07/26/18 at 14:26:44

this sounds good to me:

Patriotism is the love and affection one feels for his country. The feeling of patriotism is based on the values a country espouses and the way it strives to improve. Patriotism is based on the belief in the inherent goodness of the system of government in a country, and the goodness of its people. The word patriotism is derived from the word patriot, from the Latin word patriota meaning fellow citizen, and the suffix -ism, meaning a system or doctrine.

So when some of us want to extend our constitution over non-citizens, that's patriotic.

Nationalism is the love and affection one feels for his country. However, nationalism is rooted in the belief that one’s country is superior to all others, and carries the connotation of disapproval of other nations or a rivalry with other nations. While patriotism does not disparage other countries, nationalism builds up one’s own country by tearing other countries down. Nationalism supports dominating other countries. The word nationalism is derived from the word nation, which comes from the Latin word nationem meaning origin or tribe, and the suffix -ism.

When someone imposes tariffs on our allies due to "national security" and a fundamental misunderstanding of the words "trade deficit." because he wants to "win." that's nationalistic. (maybe not the best example)

http://grammarist.com/usage/patriotism-vs-nationalism/

words in red are my own, not from the cited source. so they aren't nearly as refined or thought out.

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