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Reply #15 - 07/14/18 at 22:27:30
 

 I didn't say you did.
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Reply #16 - 07/14/18 at 23:02:43
 
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Reply #17 - 07/15/18 at 11:13:50
 
Eegore wrote on 07/14/18 at 14:06:28:
 Surgeons don't compete for board certification ..."


No they don’t compete, they just, 'pass'.
They are just like, Lawyers, Teachers, (and many etc’s)
They must ‘pass’ a base score to test their knowledge of the subject..
Some pass that, ’test’ with flying colors, and some pass by the skin of their teeth.

Their are, Surgeons who are so skilled,  one would think everything they did, was a miracle.
And others, that don’t know how to fix a ‘hangnail’.

Their are, Lawyers that are absolutely stellar in their work.
And their are some, that can only move a piece of paper back and forth on a desk.

Their are teachers, (and I personally Know some), that have the ability to being out the absolute best in any student.
And their are some, that can’t find their Azz with both hands.

But Hey, they ALL, got, Participation Trophies/Ribbons/Board Certification.

Just thinking, if putting a cast on a broken arm, the, ’Score’ of the “board Certification’, makes no difference.
Yet if one were to have Heart Surgery, thinking one would look to someone that had a higher score.
 (Even Bernie Sanders, and his Supporters would)

Just thinking, If you need Defense, for a Major Crime, Ya pick the Paper Pusher, or the Star ?

Which Teacher, YOU, wanting to teach, YOUR, kid ?

And to a degree, we ALL do that, Ask, find out, look to experience/results, Many different ways of selecting.
A painter moves into the neighborhood, they get some business.  If they get more business, or less business, it all depends on their Skill at painting.

Yet to say: ‘Well that … is Board Certified, or has a Degree, so they know what they are doing’.
Is  WRONG. !  It is NOT, JUST, because.
The ultra-Liberals, just pass out, ‘Participation trophies/ribbons’,  because everyone is the Same !
And for some, that level of skill/qualification, is DIFFERENT, because of, …, …, …, …, …,  etc.
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
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Reply #18 - 07/15/18 at 11:25:35
 
And nobody has been able to demonstrate why it's
Natural
Or
Reasonable
To expend efforts, mental and physical, to achieve ones best, I in order that others who are not so skilled or diligent in the pursuit of excellence can reap the rewards of your labors.
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Reply #19 - 07/15/18 at 11:38:16
 
 Correct.  There are people who play chess well, and those that don't.

 They don't compete to learn chess, they compete at chess.  So yes it is logical that if you were picking someone to play chess on your team you would choose the one that wins most.  If you want to win at chess you would play the one that wins least.  

"To expend efforts, mental and physical, to achieve ones best, I in order that others who are not so skilled or diligent in the pursuit of excellence can reap the rewards of your labors. "

 We do something similar in other ways, like city infrastructure, welfare, and the VA.

 
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Reply #20 - 07/15/18 at 13:09:12
 
America has some communistic ways.
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Reply #21 - 07/15/18 at 16:17:54
 
Eegore wrote on 07/15/18 at 11:38:16:
 "...  They don't compete to learn chess, they compete at chess.  ..."  

For the people that don’t possess your superior skill of stating the Oblivious.

Teach, Indoctrinate, at a young age, No NEED to Strive for something,
cause it’s, ‘Trophies for Everyone’.
No need to do the very best you can,
cause it’s, ‘Trophies for Everyone’.
No need to try the hardest you can for 1st place,
cause it’s, ‘Trophies for Everyone’.

But I suppose that goes with the mindset of, ‘believing’ in, ’not believing’.

Where those that Believe, in something, (other than nothing), know, that everyday, they strive to be perfect, Knowing full well they will never achieve that goal.
Yet they keep on striving for it.
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Ben Franklin once said: "If you give up a freedom, for the sake of security, you will have neither".
Which is More TRUE, today, than yesterday.('06, S-40, Stock) well, mostly .
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Reply #22 - 07/15/18 at 16:21:28
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/14/18 at 19:53:20:
Your mind is so rigid...


Coming from you that is probably the richest thing ever written on this forum Grin
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Reply #23 - 07/15/18 at 16:56:04
 
faffi wrote on 07/15/18 at 16:21:28:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/14/18 at 19:53:20:
Your mind is so rigid...
Coming from you that is probably the richest thing ever written on this forum Grin



Would you like to state, the, 'Context' in which that was said ?
Their may be a few, that don’t, realize.

Like when JOG said: “…It is surreal to see such a patently ignorant and willfully stupid fool…”

And YOU said: “…That’s the best thing you’ve said about Trump to date …”
Knowing full well that was a LIE,  by also saying:
“…Oh, you meant someone else *snigger*…”
Which you put in the smallest font, and the lightest  color.

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Reply #24 - 07/15/18 at 20:48:40
 
"Teach, Indoctrinate, at a young age, No NEED to Strive for something,
cause it’s, ‘Trophies for Everyone’.
No need to do the very best you can,
cause it’s, ‘Trophies for Everyone’.
No need to try the hardest you can for 1st place,
cause it’s, ‘Trophies for Everyone’."


 I agree with this, however I do not agree that it applies to real world circumstances.  People can believe all they want, but those ribbons for all participants still won't get everyone a medical degree.
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Reply #25 - 07/16/18 at 16:00:48
 
 2BR02B

The perfect Utopia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgaID8bRPLk

Just exactaly what all the Fairy Dust Sprinkling, Kum-By-You singing, stand in the street Criers, want.

(Only takes 11 minuets)
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