To combat the homeless problem in San Francisco, Breed wants to, among other things, improve hospital and hospice care for the homeless, open safe injection sites for drug users, have medical teams on the streets deal with overdoses and construct permanent housing for the city’s homeless.

Not.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/11/18 at 18:48:21:



Never happen in Texas.
Instead of all these nice enabling perks that allow them to live their destructive lifestyle, Texas would just give each one a gun, and one bullet.
It would solve lots of their problems, quickly.

 Clean injection sites do save money on the back end.

 Unless we do something about requiring medical centers to treat all  people that come into them, or otherwise protect the medical staff that tell homeless addicts that they can't receive care.

 In Utah creating a homeless community was cheaper than jailing them.  So in certain places, some of these things work to save some taxpayer money.

"addict is sick and tired enough of living like that they will do something about it or die, it is their choice"

 The problem here is that medical centers can not just let an addict that was dropped off die without breaking the law.  So in a way many do not have the choice, unless they shoot up in private where nobody will try to get them medical attention.

 Also there's ones that keep coming in for treatment, for years and years and the cost of that is very high.  Clean needles are cheaper, in some communities, in certain circumstances, so from a cost perspective it is a good choice sometimes.

Mn - I believe that universal health care such as Obamacare did just that, provided the necessary tools for diabetics.

I am curious, did you have access to a gun when you were an addict?

Just curious, as Rawdawg had made the suggestion...

As an aside to the topic, I am in awe of anyone who can overcome an addiction to drugs, good for you.

Eegore wrote on 07/11/18 at 19:33:00:


Cheaper.....how so?

At the moment?

What happens when the need increases because of enabling them, then you tell them no more, or just expand, expand, expand?

You go to any pubic campground in the USA,
Right smack dab at the toll booth, in BIG letters, they tell you...

DO NOT FEED THE WILD ANIMALS.

You wanna hazard a guess why?

MShipley wrote on 07/12/18 at 08:22:50:


Real quickly I will tell you the 30 sec. story. When I was 29 I woke up in a hospital and was told 1 would not live another year due to my alcoholism and drug abuse. I drank a half gallon of bourbon everyday for years. Anyway I went home and got drunk. I didn't want to die, I had a 2 year old son. I took out my Bible and started reading. One day I got on my knees and told God this was out of my control, I could not stop and if he had plans for my life he would have to do something. I also promised that if he would save my life that what I had left live would be devoted to him. Selfish I know. But God does not ask us to come with the right motivation, he just ask us to come.

Anyway, over the next 6 months through what I would tell you was miraculous events I met my problem head on and that was 34 years ago and I have not had a drink or used drugs since.
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No drug, nothing even prescribed?

I have shared my overcoming many times here as well.....
Just had another sober birthday on the 4th.

Re: drugs.

I have had dental work, triple hernia surgery, as well as my cancers....
I needed pain meds.

I told every doctor right up front, about my addicting personality.
One told me he wasn't worried, because I had the honesty to tell him about it.....
I said, not good enuff, you are getting paid to perform this procedure, and you are IN CHARGE of my drug use/needs, to get over this surgery.
Do NOT listen to me if I call with a excuse to needing more pain meds, I am really good at convincing others of my needs, when I am under their spell......
He looked at me, just stared real hard into my eyes.....
I didn't drop off my gaze, but met his full on.

He finally gave me a small nod, and dropped his gaze.
I could tell I made some kind of connection, a understanding, in his life.
I hope it was the very fact that saying NO, is better than giving in, to a patience who whines for more meds.

Its like this.
You wanna lose weight?
Decide your portions before you sit at the table, and STICK TO IT.....
Its YOU putting that fork or spoon, into your mouth, NOT the Chefs.....

Also, my "drugs" were left in plain view on the counter, so my wife could also have peace of mind, if she wanted to count them to see if I wasn't taking them as prescribed.
I never asked her if she did, nor do I do this as a safe guard, delegating MY responsibilities to self, with her being the warden.....

Yes, the draw is different for everyone.....
Some will never get fat, nor become addicts and rummies, but that is beside the point.
Everyone has a mind (mostly)  and a FREE will, therefor, its up to YOU, to ask for help, plain and simple.

BTW, that euphoria, the effect, of pain meds is real, like a flame to a moth, I feel its draw.
I want more, this feels GREAT.....
You just don't, you can't, its a lie.
It's only MASKING the pain, NOT taking it away.

The "pain" in the lives of alcoholics and addicts IS REAL, fix that, not mask it.... By continual and habitual using of booze and drugs.  

You CAN fix your pain, that is VERY DOABLE, and the freedom of escaping a vicious cycle of addiction alone, will bring you such joy you will wonder why you didn't choose it years ago....
That doesn't matter tho, as today you can. and tomorrow will bring more promise, building upon each sober day